No More DVX?

inspire84

inspire84

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Random thought. Do you guys think after the DVX100B came out, that is the last of the DVX series? You think Panasonic will fade out their SD pro-sumer cams? What is next for SD or HD...Just some thoughts on the future...
 
hmmm, well, the dvx100 then dvx100b came out which are SD only.

Soon after, the hvx200 which can do HD and SD, which goes to show that panny knows that SD isnt dying anytime soon. But eventually i think you'll see no less than 720p and 480 will become old news.

i think panny will push now for HD.
 
The DVX100b is almost certainly the last Panny SD cam in it's class. Other than maybe surveillance or industrial cameras, I think we've seen the end of new SD cams.

Why shoot SD on an HD cam? How about the HVX's DVXCPRO50 format. It's SD, but at 4:2:2 sampling and 3.3:1 compression compared to standard DV's 4:1:1 sampling at 6.6:1 compression. It's a much higher quality SD format. Also, SD is a subset of HD. You can always shoot in HD and downrez on output without losing anything. The biggest tradeoff is the loss in light sensitivity due to cramming more pixels on the same size chip for 1/3" cameras. So there are still a few advantages to 1/3" SD cams, but I'd expect improvements in technology to negate those adavantages in the next couple of generations of HD cams.
 
like barry said, I highly doubt that there will be any other DVX after the 100B. However, I do not believe that it will be discontinued very soon, I would guess at least a year from now.
 
I'd second this. SD isn't going to go away, but I don't think it makes much sense to make a new SD only line. I do believe Panasonic's going to make cameras with the capability of SD, but they will be HD systems with SD as a rain-day-option.
 
A new DVX with 16:9-native chips and improved sampling/compression would be welcome, especially if the price is right.

I'd rather have a HV20 with manual focus/exposure though... Sort it out, Canon!
 
Why shoot SD with an HD cam?

Well, alot of people are independent shooters. Not every single one of their clients may require HD. They might just want SD so they can edit themselves and they're unfamiliar with editing HD.

From a business standpoint, I think SD will have to be accepted for at least another 2 years.

Let's take a professional wedding guy for example. Most people out there already pay for $4500+ weddings shot on SD. HD weddings can cost substantially more. Heck, alot of couples barely afford a $2000 wedding vid which people still charge using Canon XL1 or PD150.

Now, take HD. This is more costly. You need a beefier editing system and 8-10 times as much hard drive space if you are going to deliver high quality output. Which means we'd have to charge our clients more.

Is the "general" market ready to pay for that? no.
Will they ever pay for that? I know if I was a working couple of client making a total of under 100K a year, I sure as hell wouldn't pay 8K for a wedding shot in HD. Especially after I have shot knowing that a guy who does great work with SD, can shoot it for 3-4K.

I think SD will stay until HD hardware prices will drop as an overall industry to the prosumer market. So they can afford to keep doing what they do, without significantly increasing their market prices.

Also, I think SD will be around until the day the "average" consumer can claim that most of their friends they know, actually own an HDTV.

The market is still pretty huge for SD and manufacturers can still make money from it.
 
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