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Shaun Patrick
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it's been thrown around before...I would love it but I don't think it would work...you need more lead time.
WilderWorks
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Now that it's been brought up, if it's not superhero, I'm going to transform into a gigantic monster and crush Los Angeles. Or at least stomp my feet and cry. I want the nerd trifecta danggit! :angry: A superhero movie would be cremulant.
Using the Rebiggunator
Now that it's been brought up, if it's not superhero, I'm going to transform into a gigantic monster and crush Los Angeles. Or at least stomp my feet and cry. I want the nerd trifecta danggit! :angry: A superhero movie would be cremulant.
Shaun Patrick said:
Well that's kinda of sad, because there are a lot of good documentary shooters. I wonder if they made the time limit of the film shorter or made the time for the competition longer if that would work. It seems as if we are limiting the DVXUSER community by not having a fest for documentary style shooters? What do you think?
Darkfader
WilderWorks
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On the serious side, though, if you're interested in the style of documentary, I think a competition that permitted both documentary and mockumentary would permit those interested in fiction to get excited. Then again, once you expand it to that level, why not do a documentary or mockumentary about zombies, about sci-fi, about action, about romance, about superheroes...? So, it's a tough call.
Shaun Patrick
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darkfader said:
You can always shoot your entry for the next contest 'documentary style'--regardless of the theme.
Jim (insightblue) actually planned and shot a zombie mockumentary for the last contest, but we didn't manage all the filming and editing in time. I think if that's the style you want to shoot in, you could manage in a lot of topics. Even for doing serious documentary, there are ways in a lot fo possibel topics.
Shaun Patrick
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darkfader said:
sarcasm is always so hard to read on a message board...
Z B Brox said:
I think that is a awesome idea, I might have a better turn out then this sci-fi fest. If I would have known what we were up against I wouldn't have submited anything this time around myself. There were some Hollywood style films in this competition, inspiring and humbling. Maybe the DVX forum should break up the next competition into experience levels if they are requesting that we send anything or screen films before they are viewed to save filmmakers the heartache. LOL
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Shaun Patrick said:
No sarcasm, I am not like that at all. I just want a chance to redeem myself and I would honestly, like to do something documentary stlye. Like Michael Moore but it would'nt have to be as serious. Just in that style, that way you don't have to worry about having the best location available that end up getting kicked out of 3hrs early.....ect. Seriously, I hadn't thought of that before and I thank you for the suggestion, no sarcasim intended
darkfader said:
Oh yeah, it's reeeeeaal hard not to be intimidated into submission here.
But, y'know, when you see really amazing work, it does two things. It makes you go "wow, I'm never gonna be that good, why do I even try?" and it makes you want to stop, and it also makes you go "wow, that's amazing, I really want to do something like that one day" and it makes you want to create. And I'll go out on a limb and say that the succesful people are largely the people who focus on that second feeling over the first one. So I figure, even if you're not gonna go and produce something that'll wow everyone here, you gotta get out there and use this as an opportunity to get something done and get some feedback.As for breaking it up... There's something innate and egalitarian in me that dismisses that idea at once, but at the same time it sounds like a damn good idea for those of us who are poor and inexperienced.
WilderWorks
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Even better, and more concrete, would be some sort of budgetary categorization. Of course, it'd have to be on good-faith, and hard to enforce, but all the rules depend on good faith. I'm thinking of something like, films made for under $500, films made between $500 and $1000, films over $1000, that sort of thing. Or just a flat-out rule saying that the budget must be under $500. That might turn out a little more fair, though it gets into complications when you consider pre-owned materials... Again, people would have to follow the spirit of the rule, and play in good faith.
That being said, I think more specific limitations on permissible equipment might also be nice. It's hard to go against a 35mm adapter, particularly at the rental cost of those things, for example... There is clearly a lop-sided quality to the entries this time, and it's a shame to see people demoralized by the competition.
That being said, I think more specific limitations on permissible equipment might also be nice. It's hard to go against a 35mm adapter, particularly at the rental cost of those things, for example... There is clearly a lop-sided quality to the entries this time, and it's a shame to see people demoralized by the competition.
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Okay, to be honest, I think this categorizing, equipment limitations, budgetary concerns... On one level, as the director I've worked with is on the low end of these things, it sounds great. But, seriously, I think that messes with the spirit here for me. I know this is a contest, and there are genuinely cool prizes up for grabs, but, honestly? I just want to see everyone go out and make the best movie they can without worrying about this stuff. This contest has really awesome mojo going, and I'd hate to see attempts to "even the playing field" mess with that.
WilderWorks
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I agree there are some great films, and I'm glad that you think the mojo is good. Perhaps I'm wrong, and people are just playing around, but I certainly detect some people who are feeling bummed, overshadowed, and left out. The mojo isn't so good for them. And I think the contest could do more for them, allowing them to get attention, than it can for people who clearly already have the resources and skills to make a great movie. Sure, reward and congratulate those who are doing great work. But it's a shame to see those who aren't yet at that level, or could never afford to be, feeling down.
Again, maybe no one is feeling down. I just get that sense.
Again, maybe no one is feeling down. I just get that sense.
Z B Brox said:Oh yeah, it's reeeeeaal hard not to be intimidated into submission here.
As for breaking it up... There's something innate and egalitarian in me that dismisses that idea at once, but at the same time it sounds like a damn good idea for those of us who are poor and inexperienced.
Well,
If you look at a competition like Sundance which some of these films could have easily been submitted too, if your film isn't up to the bar they won't even call you back. In addition, if people like myself have only two people doing all the camera work, post-production and lighting because of financial limitations, going up a against awesome production companies it just seems kinda strange? Lets look at the Olympics, if you don't qualify they are not going to put you up against a gold medalist. Otherwise, it seems like hey everyone can submit, the really good films we will love and the others are here to laugh at and talk about negatively. It's hard for some people to come back from that kinda of thing and if anything if you have different rating systems it would be better for people. Winning a camera to someone who doesn't have a lot of resources means a lot more to them then to someone who really doesn't need it because they have so many resources? (if that makes any sense)