New Technicolor Profile Is Amazing

[j]

That's a great tutorial...

 

[John Froton]

Iit seems to me like the whole Technicolor Cinestyle picture style is a good way to modify the representation of the luminance values of recorded video to make the values represent that of a greater dynamic range.

The whole idea is to have a smoother gradation in the grayscale to mimic the typical advantage that film has over digital video, or at least to mimic the inherent grayscale range in the camera over the limitation of the 4.2.0 codec.

I think it should be used and considered as a generic all purpose tool whenever there is complex grayscale values that go to any extremes with regard to exposure in the shots. Tjis can serve the same kind of purpose that using highlight tone priority serves when trying to preserve a blown out portion of an image.

That seems to be the unique advantage of this picture style to me anyway.

 

[Samuel H]

Dave Dugdale has ran a test of cinestyle vs neutral on low light, here:
http://www.learningdslrvideo.com/cinestyle-vs-neutral/

it's obvious that the cinestyle gets a lot more info in the shadows, but again: if you don't need it, because you know you'll crush (or nearly crush) those shadows anyway, it's better to get the look baked in-camera: look how all the codec artifacts above the ear get blown up when the cinestyle footage is "graded" with the LUT

I'll definitely use it only when I want to keep the extra DR in the final images

 

[M. Gilden]

Dave Dugdale has ran a test of cinestyle vs neutral on low light, here:
http://www.learningdslrvideo.com/cinestyle-vs-neutral/

it's obvious that the cinestyle gets a lot more info in the shadows, but again: if you don't need it, because you know you'll crush (or nearly crush) those shadows anyway, it's better to get the look baked in-camera: look how all the codec artifacts above the ear get blown up when the cinestyle footage is "graded" with the LUT

I'll definitely use it only when I want to keep the extra DR in the final images

Yeah, I'm starting to lose my enthusiasm for it in my doc work, honestly. I shot a short interview clip for a network broadcast talk show last week, and just shot with neutral. The highlights and detail just weren't worth the hassle for a 40 second broadcast clip.

 

[ROCKMORE]

it's obvious that the cinestyle gets a lot more info in the shadows, but again: if you don't need it, because you know you'll crush (or nearly crush) those shadows anyway, it's better to get the look baked in-camera: look how all the codec artifacts above the ear get blown up when the cinestyle footage is "graded" with the LUT

I'll definitely use it only when I want to keep the extra DR in the final images

CineStyle gives you a lot to work with in any situation. You can surely get great results and maybe better using Neutral. The LUT curve is the correct application in only a small percentage of shots. I'm finding in many shots any curves added become too contrasty and only a minor + contrast correction is needed if you want to achieve a natural look of what is really there.
If you are satisfied with a close to finished in camera image than go for it, but more flexibility in post may be better.

 

[M. Gilden]

CineStyle gives you a lot to work with in any situation. You can surely get great results and maybe better using Neutral. The LUT curve is the correct application in only a small percentage of shots. I'm finding in many shots any curves added become too contrasty and only a minor + contrast correction is needed if you want to achieve a natural look of what is really there.
If you are satisfied with a close to finished in camera image than go for it, but more flexibility in post may be better.

Agreed. I think what we're getting at is an addendum to the tread title: "Technicolor profile is amazing... for certain applications". Yes, its very cool and great to know I can shoot super flat if I'm shooting a lot of B roll and will need to color correct. But I don't think its so amazing for everything, and indeed much of what I shoot doesn't require or benefit from it IMO.

 

[Dave ©]

Am I the only one having a hard time getting super sharp focus with this? Perhaps it's my eyes but I don't see enough contrast to get it right.

FYI, using 5D and Zacuto Z-Finder.

 

[j]

> The highlights and detail just weren't worth the hassle for a 40 second broadcast clip.

+1
A tool in the kit, not a grand save-all application.

 

[Samuel H]

Am I the only one having a hard time getting super sharp focus with this? Perhaps it's my eyes but I don't see enough contrast to get it right.

FYI, using 5D and Zacuto Z-Finder.

lots of people complaining about this

someone suggested in the ML thread that maybe we could record with one picture style (technicolor) and see another one in the LCD (neutral), but it seems it's not feasible
(even applying the LUT in the LCD, in a similar way to how the false color view is produced, seems to be more than what the available processor cycles can deliver)

 

[ROCKMORE]

>


A tool in the kit, not a grand save-all application.

That's what I thought at first, but when I standardized many presets to drag and drop it became as effortless and quick as any other style. I don't think I'll shoot any other way. Color correction always takes a little time, just have to adjust.