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jasonbrooks

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Just saw this: https://www.dpreview.com/news/13089...-24mp-20fps-high-end-full-frame-sports-camera

Several nice new features over the A7s/rii at first glance: 6K oversampling to 4K; 'Stacked' CMOS sensor (Whatever that is, apparently something to do with fast focus); 2.2x battery life (thank ****) plus optional extra battery grip; 1080p @120fps; dual SD slots; double-brightness VF screen; 693 phase-detection spots covering 93% of the frame.

Damn Sony seems to be staying on top of their game.

-jason
 
Better battery life: BIG WIN. US$4500. Looks like no audio (if I'm reading correctly)... Perhaps Sony's saving that and some other audio-friendly features for an A9s or something...?
 
Yep, they do seem to be focusing on still photo info right now. Perhaps there's an A9S in the works...we'll see if that info comes out next week at NAB.
 
Heard rumos that A9 does not have s-log or even picture profiles. That would explain why there is practically zero information about the video in the camera. Ive only seen mention of 4K and 1080p 120fps.
 
Every Sony mirrorless cameras since they started making them have had the specs from the previous one...meaning S-Log2/3, IS, etc. went from the older cameras into the newer cameras (which also obviously came with their own new features). The cycle keeps repeating itself...of course the a9 has S-Log2/3 and expect all of the same PPs that the main cams had before it (a7RII, a7SII, a6300/a6500, etc).
 
Jim Feeley said:
Looks like no audio (if I'm reading correctly)
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Checking Max Yuryev's "Hands On" video shot with the new Panasonic GH5, the new Sony A9 does have MIC and headphone jacks.

No touch-screen. No S-Log profile. No Cine-4 profile.

Also, the Full Frame rolling-shutter performance from Max's quick test appears to be better than the A6500, but it doesn't seem too impressive.

 
I don't know if the a9 offers any kind of s-log. It might, but I haven't seen a complete specs rundown. Though on this page, Sony mentions RAW (for stills) a few times, though a page search on "log" doesn't find any results. And there's not a whole lot about its 4K video (though there is some).
http://www.sony.com/electronics/interchangeable-lens-cameras/ilce-9

The a9 is a successor, I think, to the a7. Not to the a7s, a7sII, or a7rII. So I still think we'll see more video-specific features in an a9s or a9r camera if one is ever announced.

Or maybe I'm just missing something in the a9 info I've seen.
 
I guess I'm trusting B&H because they just post what is sent to them. But it would also be mind-blowing if Sony didn't include those features into this camera. They have never done that before with any of the other ones. If the $950 a6300 gets S-Log2/3, you would hope the $4500 a9 gets it no matter if the camera is for photos or videos.

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Just out of curiosity I checked what it says under the a6300 overview and it has the same description in the "Custom Color Profiles..." section.

That now makes me question B&H a9's specs, but that would be something, ha.
 
Interesting that they added S&Q up to 120fps versus the previous low bitrate HFR mode, that means you can probably do 120fps 1080p from the full sensor continuous recorded in 50Mbps 24p, that's about 2.5x higher bitrate than all previous sony cameras 120fps. So it should be recording at about 250Mbps. Really would be nice if they updated the 4K format to a higher bitrate format and hoping they will allow you to see an image on the camera while recording 4k and outputing HDMI, but even the FS5 can't do that so who knows. Still kind of seems unclear if this is a worthwhile upgrade for anyone using an A7S2 for video... seems like maybe not much of an upgrade.

As for picture profiles, there is a picture profile heading in the Sony website but its contents are incomplete. I have a feeling it probably will have all the usual pp's plus Slog2/3, just not in the preproduction firmware...
 
It is XAVC-S not XAVC-I and only 30P or 24P in UHD. I think carefully arranged not to effect the FS5 and FS7 line for video. The dual card slots are also not the same as one is UHS - 11 the other is only UHS -1 as well as Memory Stick Duo so does not compete with the GH5 with 2 UHS - 11 slots that can operate in several ways. Yes looks like a still camera with some video. According to the spec it does have a touch panel. Max bit rate appears to be 100Mbps.
 
Same XAVC-S and 100mbps the last 8 mirrorless cameras received...nothing has changed on that end and probably won't until the a7SIII arrives.
 
As has been mentioned before, Sony has a live presser on the 23rd. Surely, they've not run of bullets.
 
I will be shooting with the a9 tonorrow (Thursday) and will post whatever I learn about video features. Not certain whether Sony will let post images and video at this point.

Ned
 
B&H updated the specs and now show no S-Log...at least for now. Like some people mentioned, I hope this means we'll see that "a9s" version in a few days or sometime soon...it would be the perfect camera to provide 4K/60p if they make a video version of it.
 
I can't imagine them not having 4K 60p in their next version. That only makes sense for their video version of their full frame mirrorless line. I just really want them to add higher bitrates and give us dual card slots like this A9 has. I have a need for a 4K 60p Sony mirrorless camera to use as a B-cam to my FS7. Being able to have that on a gimbal, slider, jib, etc. in addition to my FS7 shots would be fantastic. It's not about me wanting some cheaper alternative to the FS7. It's about me wanting a smaller tool to use alongside it. I really hope Sony can look at it that way instead of being concerned with eating their FS sales.
 
We'll have to wait for the next video version of A9/A7 to get all the video goodies. But unless Sony puts XAVC-I inside this camera it will still be a 100mb/s max bitrate and 8-bit 420.
 
A small full-frame 4K/60p slow-motion package is what I want too.

We are definitely getting a Sony mirrorless camera with 4K/60p...it's just surprisingly taking a bit longer than I imagined for such innovators who keep pounding away at their climb to the top.
 
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