New Sony A6xxx coming in May?
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ahalpert
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The way I see it, canon and Sony sell for full frame (in descending order of price) a sports camera, a high-res camera, a low-res/low-noise/video-priority camera, an entry level camera, and a dirt cheap entry level camera. Something like that.
The a6xxx would be the entry level camera (a7iii-equivalent) but with a crop sensor. It's not a sports shooter, high-res, or low-noise. And it's not the dirt cheap build. So, the upper limit to the price is the a7iii/a7iv price and it will be lower than that because it's aps-c
The a6xxx would be the entry level camera (a7iii-equivalent) but with a crop sensor. It's not a sports shooter, high-res, or low-noise. And it's not the dirt cheap build. So, the upper limit to the price is the a7iii/a7iv price and it will be lower than that because it's aps-c
ahalpert
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a little disappointing if that's still the case. in clear image zoom, you have only rudimentary wide autofocus. no tracking etc. i can't remember if you get face.
ahalpert
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the a7siii didn't get pixel shift, so I doubt this will. at least there's precedent for 10-bit from sony in the form of the a7siii.
someone on dvxuser previously tallied the time between sony giving features to high-end releases and giving them to entry-level cameras. it might have been a year-and-a-half or something like that. and if that were true, then both 4k60p and 10bit would probably have to wait for the next a6xxx release. but here's hoping. I sort of feel like they need to upgrade more than just a few megapixels
ahalpert
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more magnification, greater reach. so basically, more of the same. just for jewelry shots and long-distance shooting. not in general
but seeing as more magnification and greater reach are THE reasons I'd buy this to complement the a7siii, it'd be nice to maximize those capabilities
The first "modern" pixel shift I recall was on Olympus EM1 MKII back in 2016. It was a Sony MFT sensor (obviously). Sony, likewise, offers the higher res option on its own A7R series, as well as on Nikon, Pentax and Panasonic with full frame Sony sensors. It also offers it on some medium format cameras, with the lowest priced being GFX 100, where one can get 400 MPX.
The Olympus had double the resolution off four shots, the full framers had the quadruple off sixteen. (sixteen shots and what do you get? - a higher res and a sizable debt) The 16-shot on A7RIV was unsuitable on anything even slightly moving, though Panasonic apparently added a software that smoothed out the differences between the frames. Could they add it to the $1,400-$1,600 flagship APS-C camera? Certainly. Will they? I'd say it's 50/50.
PS. A7SIII was "photo-crippled" ... and overpriced. But, by looking at the entire series of models (A7SIII, FX3, FX6) with the same sensor, they'd have a really difficult time marketing a higher grade model, had A7SIII got the pixel shift. It was made for the video shooters first and foremost. For the higher res off the existing frames, one could add the separate Gigapixel'ish type of software.
If this Sony APS-C is going to have a significant jump in specs, they better dump all the old stuff.
And, so far, the early rumors look good enough : 32 MPX, 4K/60, 10-bit. No news on the crop, downsampling or pixel/line binning. My bet is on binning.
ahalpert
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the rumors also claim it can do a 12-bit readout at 17ms. so, that would mean that it's easily capable of a 10-bit 60fps full readout properly downsampled to 4k. whether or not they do is anyone's guess.
but even with those rumored specs, the vote tally on sonyalpharumors is 60% not interested in buying it. because who needs aps-c in photo-land
I walk into our building yesterday with a couple I have never seen before. The guy is carrying a camera. From my vantage view, it looks like a Panasonic G85 type. So, I ask, "Panasonic?" He sticks it out, "No, Fuji". - "XT3?" - "Yes. Are you a photographer?" - "Eh, more into the video of self importance" - "I take an occasional video, but mostly stills" - "Well, we have some great landscapes here" - "Yes, I love it".
I think he had a 16-80 on, with the petal hood. It was dark already but one could probably get too much side light from adjacent lamp posts.
ahalpert
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looks like the new a6xxx won't get 4k60p at any bit-depth, making it DOA for me
But on the flipside, this makes my a7siii continue to look good by comparison
https://www.sonyalpharumors.com/rumor-new-high-end-aps-c-camera-has-improved-ibis/
But on the flipside, this makes my a7siii continue to look good by comparison
https://www.sonyalpharumors.com/rumor-new-high-end-aps-c-camera-has-improved-ibis/
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Is the A6000 series the longest running digital camera model so far? Is there anything else that is just still for sale for so many years?
NorBro
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Sony a5xxx/a6xxx cameras have been around for a really long time and might be Sony's longest model family, but Canon's xxD has been around longer than many of us have had careers (in some cases more than 50% of our lives) starting with the 10D back in 2003.
90D just came out in 2019.
Panasonic's GHx series is probably the longest for mirrorless' (it's close though as the GH5 was 2017 and Sony kept making cameras).
90D just came out in 2019.
Panasonic's GHx series is probably the longest for mirrorless' (it's close though as the GH5 was 2017 and Sony kept making cameras).