New Music Video with D90 in Sweden

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erik_ande_85

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Hey guys!

During the easter I went home to my hometown and recorded a music video for my best friend (who BTW gave me a long time loan to buy my D90)

We went out to a place that looks like some kind of wasteland, and it smelled like ****. We didn't have any permissions to be there and we only had a couple of hours since i wanted the sunset light.

What did I learn from this?

1: Don't make films with people that doesn't take your directors role seriously.
2: It's hard for an actor that doesn't know how to play drums to make it look like he knows the song.
3: If you're in charge, BE in charge! And since I don't want to be angry with my friends I'm back to 1.

I'd like to hear what you think about the video and some advice what I could have done.

http://vimeo.com/4147469
 
your right about the directing part (reminds me of highschool when i shot movies with my class mates and "friends")

question: why do people in sweden sing english songs often? just curious :D
 
sithroya said:
question: why do people in sweden sing english songs often? just curious :D
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Reason #1. English is the international language.

Reason #2. Most Swedes I know speak better English than me and other native speakers.

Reason #3. They learn English from a young age, are well educated, and many consider English their second language.

Reason #4. So that people other than Swedes can listen to, and enjoy their music.

The Swedes I know have a great taste in music and art.
 
Yeah english is pretty much an official language here, but i wouldn't say we speak it very well beyond basic conversation. I used to think i was awesome at it before i lived in the states and later worked as a writer in english, but i honestly wasn't. Ask any swede to open a kitchen drawer and name the tools. Ok, knife, but then? :-)
 
Yeah it's pretty much what Artforme wrote.

But i have a theory why Swedes speaks better english than others.

When we watch films we do not dub them like the germans do.

We put swedish subtitles instead. Imagine how much you learn when you see all these hollywood movies with a translated text under everything they say during your whole childhood.

I still remember when I was 7 and saw Jaws - "Smile you son of a *****" but i said it like Smile you sannavallawich:)
 
Or because swedish and english are extremely closely related. All scandinavians speak good english as well as the dutch. Same family. Or "samma familj", for those who want proof. :-)
 
erik_ande_85 said:
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When we watch films we do not dub them like the germans do.

We put swedish subtitles instead. Imagine how much you learn when you see all these hollywood movies with a translated text under everything they say during your whole childhood.
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That´s totally fine with me. But you have to consider that around 16 mio germans grew up in a communistic system. And the first foreign language there was russian and after that maybe spanish. And the old people mostly don´t speak english anyway. If they have to watch american movies in the native language it would go a revolt through the country :-). Beside that it has something to do with comfort. If you don´t speak the language and you gotta always look at the subtitles it´s quite exhausting.

On the other side most of the younger people speak english (the quality depends on the education). And they like to speak english. But go to France and ask the people "Do you speak english?". You´ll get a "No" although they speak it... ;-)
 
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lol. If you ask the French in French if they speak English, they become much more obliging. :)

I find it strange the French have laws governing how their language can officially change. I think they're missing the point on what language really is. But then again they are the country whom had the Academy of Arts. :) It is a cool country though.
 
Back in grad school we did a study of the value of lower thirds text keys. We found that viewers either read the text key or watch the screen but never both at the same time. If they're getting what you're asking them to read in the captions, they're missing your movie. If they're watching your movie, they're not reading your captions.
 
mhood said:
Back in grad school we did a study of the value of lower thirds text keys. We found that viewers either read the text key or watch the screen but never both at the same time. If they're getting what you're asking them to read in the captions, they're missing your movie. If they're watching your movie, they're not reading your captions.
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I believe reading captions and watching a movie is a learned skill. If one watches enough movies in a foreign language with subs, they almost forget they are even reading.

Were your test subjects familiar with reading captions, are previously not exposed much too it?

When studying foreign film, almost any cinephile would agree that subs are better than dubs.

I'm not saying your research was wrong, but maybe does not apply in this scenario. But if you have the thesis online, please do share the link.

Just, imo.
 
capice said:
Haha... exactly, that´s mostly the reason behind it.

http://secure.hospitalityclub.org/hc/forum.php?action=DisplayMessage&StartMessageId=272092
http://www.antimoon.com/forum/2004/4362.htm
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Interesting link. The first one did not work for me, but the second one is exactly correct from my experience. I'm living in Asia before I go to grad school in the Fall, and the process is the same here.

The ironic part about English being such a difficult language can be actually be partly blamed on the French language. It was the French whom added all the 'foreign' grammar and vocabulary into English. Thus making English grammar and spelling extremely difficult to master compared to other languages, because of all the variable rules that apply. (run- ran vs. walk- walked/ fish- fishes vs. goose- geese, etc) And now the governmental academic French don't want the English language to return the favor. :huh: ... :)
 
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artforme said:
I believe reading captions and watching a movie is a learned skill. If one watches enough movies in a foreign language with subs, they almost forget they are even reading.

Were your test subjects familiar with reading captions, are previously not exposed much too it?

When studying foreign film, almost any cinephile would agree that subs are better than dubs.

I'm not saying your research was wrong, but maybe does not apply in this scenario. But if you have the thesis online, please do share the link.

Just, imo.
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This was just a small broadcast message analysis class study. The methodology was different cognitive information in the captions and the movie and a test of retention. Subjects who could recall captions information could not recall information presented concurrently in the movie and vice versa.

Our guess was that there are major differences between brain functions for reading and those for viewing a movie. We did not test the effect of practice on subjects.
 
artforme said:
I believe reading captions and watching a movie is a learned skill. If one watches enough movies in a foreign language with subs, they almost forget they are even reading.
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I won´t argue that point. But once a while I like to watch the french-german culture channel "Arte" : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arte. A lot of good movies and other stuff there - sure in original language with subs. So I don´t speak french and it´s pretty exhausting to follow a 2 hour french movie. But perhabs my skill in reading + watching at the same time isn´t good enough. Accordingly I have to improve that skill... ;-)


artforme said:
The first one did not work for me, but the second one is exactly correct from my experience...
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It worked for me. But here is another one: http://www.antimoon.com/forum/2004/4362.htm
 
Without the french english would be icelandic, swedish too without the germans. We both spoke what's essentially icelandic a thousand years ago, before we started trading as well as fighting wars with our respective closest neighbors. :-) btw the germanic (as opposed to german mind you) roots don't exactly have easy grammar either. We have the same irregular grammar in swedish.
 
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