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The body style looks very "Sony-ish"....
New Camera announced. HPX250
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Bassman2003
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They all look about the same to me! There are not too many ways to make them look different.
Another question: How about menus? Will the HPX-250 have a color matrix? More image controls than the set style choices of the HPX-200/170/150?
Another question: How about menus? Will the HPX-250 have a color matrix? More image controls than the set style choices of the HPX-200/170/150?
Mike Harvey
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Considering how many millions of dollars consumers have invested into the P2 workflow, and the fact that they are effectively bullet proof, why wouldn't they?
p2 technology is bullet proof. And more individuals and companies are moving to it given some of the NAB announcements.
Neil Johnson
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So, wonder how this with a Letus or whatever compares to the AF100?
BrianMurphy
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Is the 160 a 4.2.0 or 4.2.2 camera? Bit rate ?
Mike Harvey
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@Berk... if you mean for the AC160, it's VFR in 1080 up to 60fps
@Brian... it's AVCCam/AVCHD, so I think it's safe to say 4.2.0 (though I would speculate it's 10bit 4.2.2 out of the HD-SDI).
@Brian... it's AVCCam/AVCHD, so I think it's safe to say 4.2.0 (though I would speculate it's 10bit 4.2.2 out of the HD-SDI).
Jonathan Briceño
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I think it will delivery alot.
the increased bitrate and color from the 250 will have grate image. So 35mm adapters will have again a solid use, mainly becose the high sensor sensitivity. I would be surprised the it will give us much better image quality than AF100. 3mos chips can render much better light than single bayer pattern. Combined with the better codec, its a win win for 35mm adapters.
Neil Johnson
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Exactly - Yeeowch. I bet there'll be a more than a few less than happy shoppers who have just off-loaded their 35mm DoF Adapters and P2 Cards for next to nothing to fund an AF100. Check out the prices for Adapters on ebay, they're virtually being given away - same for R Series P2 Cards.
Foxarwing42
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While I love the announcements and the fact that Panasonic isn't leaving P2 tech anytime soon, I was really hoping for a camera like a AG-AF100 with P2 cards.
Jodysmith
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ditto
Still really excited about these new cameras, fills a lot of contention points we had with our HPX170s (and reasons we don't own 150's) and gives a clear upgrade path- didn't make it by the booth today, but you can bet I'll be there tomorrow.
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BrianMurphy
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I sure would like to know "officially" if it is 4.2.0 or 4.2.2. and what the bit rate is... I can't seem to find it listed anywhere on the Panasonic site. But thanks for the input Mike.
Robert M Wright
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AVCHD camcorders record 4:2:0 color. It's part of the AVCHD spec (that's "official"). If it recorded 4:2:2 color, then it would NOT be AVCHD, by definition - no need for Panny to say anymore than simply that the camcorder records in the AVCHD format, to clearly specify that it records 4:2:0 color.
Barry_Green
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Yep. Bing the sdi & Hdmi are 4;2;2 if you use an external recorder, for those who need it.
Robert M Wright
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I'd have to look again to be certain, but I think I read somewhere in Panny's literature, that the output from the HDMI port was "AVCHD". I assume that's a sloppy way to say that the images coming from the HDMI port have already been compressed once (AVCHD compliant), and then decompressed, so even if the signal is a 4:2:2 (either 8 or 10bit), it's got to be delivering a 4:2:0 image (8bit) defacto - kinda disappointing.
Barry_Green
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I don't know what you're referring to but that is almost unquestionably not the case. Hdmi and hdsdi output are strictly uncompressed hd on all the panasonics.