New Camera announced. HPX250

Robert M Wright said:
It's in the official announcement, 10th paragraph: "...HDMI output (AVCHD only)..." - pretty odd me thinks.

http://www2.panasonic.com/webapp/wc...1040904464&surfModel=Content03242011040904464
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Okay, I see what you're talking about -- no, this isn't a problem. The HDMI is absolutely full uncompressed. What it's talking about is that you only get HDMI output when the DV/HDMI switch is put in AVCHD mode. The HDMI port is active when in AVCHD mode, and the firewire port is only active when the switch is in DV mode. It works the same as the HMC80 in that respect.

Nothing to worry about, it will still output full uncompressed digital HD on the HDMI.
 
Barry_Green
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Originally Posted by tatita
Is it 8bit or 10 bit trough sdi & hdmi?



Hpx250 is 10-bit.​
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Thanks for that. And what about the AC 130 and AC 160? Can you confirm that they also deliver uncompressed 10bit 422 trough HDMI out?
 
tatita said:
Thanks for that. And what about the AC 130 and AC 160? Can you confirm that they also deliver uncompressed 10bit 422 trough HDMI out?
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The HPX250 has a 10 bit output due to the fact that it has a 10 bit codec. The 160 and 130 will deliver an 8 bit output. All of these are uncompressed and 4:2:2.

The HDMI is an HiDef output and thus will not pass an SD signal.

hope that helps,

Jan
 
With so much of the buzz these days being on DSLR's or large-sensor video cameras, I fear the importance of the introduction of the HPX-250 might be lost in the noise. AVC-Intra in a sub-$10K camera?! How about in a $6500 camera ?! This is big and I hope it gets the hype it deserves. Now this is not to take anything from the 130 and 160 which represent an important update. What we have to look forward to in future years is AVC-Ultra! Good intro and good luck with product!
 
I'm very pleased with what I'm seeing from the HPX-250. The only question now is to I keep the 170 for the CCDs, or hold my nose and take the plunge into full-time CMOS world? :laugh:
 
nsoltz said:
With so much of the buzz these days being on DSLR's or large-sensor video cameras, I fear the importance of the introduction of the HPX-250 might be lost in the noise. AVC-Intra in a sub-$10K camera?! How about in a $6500 camera ?! This is big and I hope it gets the hype it deserves. Now this is not to take anything from the 130 and 160 which represent an important update. What we have to look forward to in future years is AVC-Ultra! Good intro and good luck with product!
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Well, with the 250 you will always have the option of throwing a DOF adapter on there, and basically have the option of turning the camera into an AF100 with AVC-intra.
 
Mike Harvey said:
If these are the same or improved versions of the HPX370's chips, I won't be complaining that they're CMOS (so long as they have the same low light abilities of the HMC150/HPX170).....
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A rep at the Panasonic both said it will have "the same CMOS chips as in the HPX370's" for what it worth maybe Jan can confirm.
 
Yak said:
A rep at the Panasonic both said it will have "the same CMOS chips as in the HPX370's" for what it worth maybe Jan can confirm.
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Jan did say they were the HPX370's chips in the video from NAB.
One thing that isn't on the spec sheets, and could be important for knowing the full low light story, is the max aperture of the lens. No one AFAIK has mentioned it either.
 
pulpfiction007 said:
Jan did say they were the HPX370's chips in the video from NAB.
One thing that isn't on the spec sheets, and could be important for knowing the full low light story, is the max aperture of the lens. No one AFAIK has mentioned it either.
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The mock up had it at 1.6 or 1.8 as I remember
 
I think the HPX250 versus AC160 is an interesting comparison. I understand the biggest difference is higher quality codec and more robust p2 recording media, but are there other important features? Are they using the same sensor and lens? In my use, I can live with AVCHD, and having the HDMI/SDI allows me for external recording devices when needed.
The AC160 is about 1K cheaper (SD recording media vs P2 cards will make a difference in budget).
Any thoughts?
 
evero said:
I think the HPX250 versus AC160 is an interesting comparison. I understand the biggest difference is higher quality codec and more robust p2 recording media, but are there other important features? Are they using the same sensor and lens? In my use, I can live with AVCHD, and having the HDMI/SDI allows me for external recording devices when needed.
The AC160 is about 1K cheaper (SD recording media vs P2 cards will make a difference in budget).
Any thoughts?
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Yes they are using the same sensor, lens, body, lcd, vf.
The AC130, 160, and HPX250 are all the same platform with different internal features and a couple of other things

AC130 - AVCHD 1/3 CMOS with 1080P 24 + 30, 720 24P + 30 + 60 and mini dv recording 480 24P and 30P under $4000
AC160 - ALL the above plus PAL/NTSC switchability, HD SDI, LInear PCM audio, and VFR capability. under $5500
HPX250 - All the above , but in AVC Intra Codec to P2 and 10 bit output. under $6500
 
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