Chris_Marrs_Piliero
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Dont take me the wrong way
but say the opening shot and the bench shot (fivth in) for starters have small amounts of shake
shake that obviously you have the competence and budget to avoid
I therefore assume it is there with intent
The second shot dolly along the fence the horizon is off
In my eye such makes the viewer aware of the camera operator as kind of part of the cast
as opposed to the way that big smooth dollies and steadicams have an impassionate unseen eye spying on a scene
ergo we know there is some there making a film
Thats what I meant by home video - maybe a poor choice of phrase - the camera and operator as sort of part of the cast
Not a bad look - I like it - but a look for sure
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As for Next Girl that even has the grade and flicker of a home movie camera (8mm from the 70s kinda look) the the composition, cutting, content, and client bely that simplicity, incedentaly the grade, flare and backlighting have are more of the insignia that I would call organic
Both are way cool - dont get me wrong on that one
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i'm still gonna disagree that camera shake means home video... it's just a different style... bourne films, saving private ryan... shake... is just a style... not that this music video is in that vain at all, but just saying that i don't think shake = home video...
but you totally have the right to your opinion, so it's all good...
this is a good forum for discussion, but one problem i find with any film forum is approaching the discussion of some decisions when they weren't perhaps your own doing... i'll be honest, i would have preferred that dolly shot to be better and the shake not to be there, but i don't think it hinders the overall satisfaction of the video... and from your comments, i don't think you're inferring that, either... i enjoy handheld, and do a lot of handheld work... that particular shot got more shake than it should have, but does it make the operator a part of the cast? i don't think so, but apparently to you it does... to each his own... all good, buddy...
in regards to Next Girl... again, not home video... it has a vintage 16mm 70s vibe/look to it, though, for sure... but home video? i dunno man... i guess you just have some rad home videos...
Let me be clear
I think these works are excellent
I am interested in the creative decisions made in thier construction - and I think they are creative decisions not happenstance - I want to know more about those decisions so I can learn from them and am lucky to be on a board where people post such workno more no less
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i appreciate it... and no worries... it's healthy to post opinions and ask questions... like i said above, it was a decision to have it be handheld, but would have preferred less shake... and sometimes shots just aren't perfect... i see quirks in my favorite work done by my favorite directors that are some of the best... it happens... you can see camera operators in reflections all the time among other imperfections... i dunno, speaking for myself, i like imperfections... but that's just me...
nonetheless, the main objective of those videos was to tell an entertaining engaging story and if that was achieved than i'm stoked, so thanks for digging them... and feel free to throw any more questions or comments at me, buddy... appreciate you watching it and investing the time to converse about it...