mpeg streamclip not recognizing avid codec

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hi, i have test footage from my t2i and cant get streamclip to recognize the avid DNxHD codec.

im using windows 7, quad core, 4 gigs ram, almost a terabyte of hard drive space. will edit in premiere pro CS4. i just reinstalled the newest version of quicktime and the avid codec pack.

i go to streamclip, select my files, select export to quicktime, go to compression and i dont have avid codec, only apple.

??

thanks in advance for any help
 
There's a bug. Hover your curser over the bottom lip of options and they should appear.
 
i dont understand what you mean.

bottom lip? what is that?

which options? the one next to compression setting?

what do you mean by hover?

i tried moving my cursor over options a bit and it didnt do anything.

does anyone know a definitive solution to this like something that needs to be reinstalled?
 
i would use the cineform neoscene, i can have effects on and also edit a complete 1080p short film with no lag...the .avi files are super clean and impressive!!

i have use mpeg streamclip with the avid dnxhd codec, and cineform is way better....fact...

just thought i would help, as mpeg streamclip is buggy as hell and cineform is smooth as butter...

-corey
 
i would use neo scene, in fact, ive used the free trial. but i dont have a benjamin to throw for it. like most people im looking for the free solution. im just confused because ive read of many many people having success with streamclip after they jimmy with it. i just cant find advice on this one issue it seems.
 
I use DNxHD and am satisfied with it. A temporary codec installation problem is not a reason to abandon MPEG Streamclip. Perhaps ill-matched versions of each are to blame.
 
FORGET mpegstreamclip!
get premiere CS5 and use original files. I dropped several color corrections on the footage and it still played back smooth
 
i reinstalled each component. works fine now. must have been the order in which they were installed last time. this time i installed the codecs before streamclip. maybe that was it.
 
i just tried mpeg streamclip its jumpy and its nowhere near as good as cineform neo scene....nowhere near it..
 
craven said:
it wasnt a repost lol, i tried mpeg streamclip again about an hr ago to do a comparison...its not a solid product....
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You just keep saying it's no good. You haven't posted your settings or any details whatsoever. Other folks reported issues, then someone like PerroneFord walked them through the process, and they were then satisfied. I am one of the people Perrone assisted.

And yes, I've compared my results with a trial of NeoScene. Parroting that "it's not a solid product" while avoiding any discussion of the nuts and bolts of the program is not in the best interest of this community.
 
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i tried it, i tried every single way, tweaked different codecs....and i fully operated neoscene....

neoscene is flawless, without needing to tweak anything...

that should tell you something.....you get what you pay for.....in this case mpeg streamclip...is nothing...
 
Craven, I am sorry to hear you are having difficulty. But the fault does not lie within MpegStreamclip. Which I have used successfully on well over 100 projects now.

As for Cineform Neoscene being flawless, I suppose it depends on your needs and workflow. I find the shift in color space with no option to turn it off, a major flaw in NeoScene and wouldn't use it even if it was free.
 
PerroneFord said:
Craven, I am sorry to hear you are having difficulty. But the fault does not lie within MpegStreamclip. Which I have used successfully on well over 100 projects now.

As for Cineform Neoscene being flawless, I suppose it depends on your needs and workflow. I find the shift in color space with no option to turn it off, a major flaw in NeoScene and wouldn't use it even if it was free.
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perrone, your a smart guy...always have nothing but GREAT info to share, and your right i did notice the color shift...its like it takes 10-15% saturation away...

but the big thing is...heres my 2 workflows to compare...

1.mpeg streamclip workflow...

-import raw h.264 .mov file
-slect quicktime
-select dnxhd codec
-set to 100% quality
-set de-interlace OFF
-export

~while editing in premiere pro, i get 50% playback speed with absolutely NO plugins on....sucks...


2.cineform neo scene workflow...

-select files to convert
-select "high" quality
-convert

~while editing in premiere pro, i get 100% playback speed with absolutely NO slowdown whatsoever, i have had 2 and 3 plugins on each video, and edited a 9 minute video, NO ISSUES whatsoever!

neo scene rocks out, i absolutely love it....

what do you think tho? why does it work for me so well?
 
Curious about this - I'm using avid media composer and am very happy just importing the qt files from my T2i/550D directly into my machine. Are there any quality improvements to be had using an mpegstreamclip or neoscene workflow?

thanks in advance.
 
craven said:
perrone, your a smart guy...always have nothing but GREAT info to share, and your right i did notice the color shift...its like it takes 10-15% saturation away...

but the big thing is...heres my 2 workflows to compare...

1.mpeg streamclip workflow...

-import raw h.264 .mov file
-slect quicktime
-select dnxhd codec
-set to 100% quality
-set de-interlace OFF
-export

~while editing in premiere pro, i get 50% playback speed with absolutely NO plugins on....sucks...


2.cineform neo scene workflow...

-select files to convert
-select "high" quality
-convert

~while editing in premiere pro, i get 100% playback speed with absolutely NO slowdown whatsoever, i have had 2 and 3 plugins on each video, and edited a 9 minute video, NO ISSUES whatsoever!

neo scene rocks out, i absolutely love it....

what do you think tho? why does it work for me so well?
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Both of these workflows is correct, and both are producing the expected results. The HDSLRs are not shooting Rec.709 colorspace video, and Cineform FORCES video to that color space even if you don't want it (like when you are delivering to the internet and want RGB colorspace). So you are going to see it lift the blacks, and step down the whites. Fortunately, it doesn't clip them both.

However, DNxHD does NOT play well inside Premiere. No .MOV/quicktime based codec will. Vegas has the same problem with quicktime codecs. So in that instance you either deal with the laggy previews, or spend the money on Cineform, and deal with the color shift. There's no easy solution.

Cineform is GREAT at what it does. You just have to be sure you actually need what it does...
 
mr bill said:
Curious about this - I'm using avid media composer and am very happy just importing the qt files from my T2i/550D directly into my machine. Are there any quality improvements to be had using an mpegstreamclip or neoscene workflow?

thanks in advance.
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Avid converts to DNxHD (in an MXF container) on the fly. No need for MpegStreamclip. Avid would simply convert the video again. And going to Cineform first would actually cause a degradation in video quality. Stay with your current workflow.
 
i have premiere pro cs5 and it says that its native with quicktime, but it still doesnt play very fast at all....
 
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