More about the mysterious AVC Ultra

Nothing from Sony or Panasonic or JVC or Canon does 1080/60p yet. But 1080/60p can be used with 3D stuff, to give two eyes' streams of 1080/30p, so that does make some sense. And 1080/60p will be coming, Sony and panasonic are both talking about it.

2K is interesting, but recognize that doesn't necessarily mean they'll be getting into cinema cameras right away; they have a 2K processor for their D5-HD decks now.
 
Okay, so, yeah, he pretty much lays it out there: AVC-Ultra is up to 200 megabits of AVC-I, allowing 1080/24p at 4:4:4 and 12-bit depth. Or, 1080/60p. Or, 3-D.

That's pretty cool!
 
Barry_Green said:
That's pretty cool!
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understatement of the day.

2K/24p with 4:4:4/12bit?
1080/60p?
3D??

I'm floored.
You'd think after years of doing this I'd get used to technology moving forward...yet every time we hear announcements like this I feel like a kid again.
Awesome.

:thumbsup:
 
1080/24P, 2K/24p with 4:4:4/12bit is a shot across the bow of the Scarlet. (Yes, i know Scarlet is now 5K, but how usable is that in an every day edit environment?)

Imagine real time 4:4:4/12 bit 2K with the proven P2 workflow. Wow.
 
Hi Guys,

Not really sure why it didn't make the press conference, but it might be because it is not on the show floor. It isn't a camera, might not end up being a camera, might be just a deck type of recorder, still under design and consideration. I have not seen it yet. I will try and get more info today.

Best,

Jan
 
Jan_Crittenden said:
Hi Guys,

Not really sure why it didn't make the press conference, but it might be because it is not on the show floor. It isn't a camera, might not end up being a camera, might be just a deck type of recorder, still under design and consideration. I have not seen it yet. I will try and get more info today.

Best,

Jan
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Like a new HPM-210...??? to partner 3700...???
 
will 200 Mbps AVC-Ultra be recordable on any P2 card or just the newer E series cards? what is the max bitrate P2 can handle?
 
Wow. Very impressive. I agree, sounds like it should go to A or E series, but E would be so much more preferable since the transfer speed is so high. But remember, this is speculation...Jan seems to allude to the fact that it might only be available in decks, not cameras.


Jason
 
Although AVC-U would probably give sony a HUGE headache if Pana decide to develop a line of high end cameras that can utilize it. 4:4:4 filebased workflow with simple P2 cards, not the hugely expensive HDcam-sr stuff. Or just 1080p50/60....
 
Nothing prevents Sony to develop something similar for the SxS system...

This sounds good, and would love to see this on a camera, but should only come next year or later.

All announcements have been a bore, excluding the cards price cuts. No breakthrough camera announced or displayed...yet.

I was looking forward for an HPX300 firmware update to address the 1080p issue. While addresing the flash situation is nice, it would be equally important for this to be addressed. That, and, of course, the S/N.

Scarlet is still what I want to see from NAB. It was either that, a surprise HPX500 update, an HVX300 with the HPX300 advancements in an handheld form factor, an EX1a with the 4:2:2 sony XDCAM codec, or a surprise Canon or Nikon video camera with Interchangeable lenses and FF35 recording.

No such thing untill now, so, a bit disappointing in the camera department.

One thing that really catched my eye was the Matrox H264 encoding hardware, the MAX technology. A MXO2 with this sounds very, very tempting.
 
Some years, NAB is a huge waste of time. I would be pretty pissed off if I went all of the way to Vegas just to see some new Silver P2 cards. I wouldn't hold your breath on the 300 skew update, that could happen at any time or could never happen.

So far, a big wash out on new cams. No RED announcements, no new Canon using a large sensor, no new Under $40,000.00 from Sony.

We'll see if Apple announces FCS3 tomorrow night at the FCPUG Supermeet.

D
 
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John Caballero said:
I am sure it will end up "being a camera" and much more!
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Aren't you the same person that likes to bring everyone down back to reality when they talk about all things RED that don't actually exist yet?

AVCUltra is promising, but until it's incorporated it will always be promising.

Fair is fair. Red uses forums, Panasonic uses press releases. Hype is born.
 
Panasonic has more than a half dozen cameras out on the market with working new technology and perhpaps a bit of hype ...who knows.
Red has.....one camera a couple of year old, and lots of CG images and attitude and of course a couple of forums. My money is on Panasonic.
 
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