Mic Holder Issue #2

PaPa

PaPa

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k so ive come to terms that canon dumbed out for the size of the mic holder, but now im finding that when i attach a shock mount to the shoe mount of the camera, it doesnt fitt in snugly, causing there to be slight rocking back and forth, which in term, causes a WOMP sound that carries into the mic..

Jesus canon....


What have people found as options for mics? This is slightly pathetic in my views for a camera, which otherwise, is wonderful.
 
That is odd. I've tried it with a rode mic NTG2 and with the oktawa and both shock mounts work well. I'm actually impressed with this camera's sound even with the on board mic. I went to shoot a live modern dance performance the other day and the sound was very very good.
 
I've installed my shock mount in the shoe and don't remember any issues.

The shock mount screws down and clamps the shoe, so not sure how it could not work... what shock mount are you using?
 
If you are ambitious enough turn the mic holder into a shock mount yourself. I cut small grooves in a criss cut fashion put some industrial strength rubber bands in the grooves, I then secured them with a pinch of caulk so they dont come loose, and I get a perfect fitting shock mount that disables most handing noise, for free. It works extremely well, I have no compaints now.
 
magichristopher said:
If you are ambitious enough turn the mic holder into a shock mount yourself. I cut small grooves in a criss cut fashion put some industrial strength rubber bands in the grooves, I then secured them with a pinch of caulk so they dont come loose, and I get a perfect fitting shock mount that disables most handing noise, for free. It works extremely well, I have no compaints now.
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that's actually a real good idea.

But the bottom line is that what this camera needs is more places onto which stuff can be mounted.

A camera should have the potential to mount 1-2 wireless receivers, a light, or firestore type device -- in addition to your mic of choice.

As it is, the mic arm is both badly designed and unadaptable to other uses. What makes it even worse is that this camera has almost no free available unobstructed flat surfaces onto which something can be velcroed.

As for me, I'll only use the mic arm when a light is needed and its using the hot shoe (something this camera needs much more often than I anticipated).

That mic arm should have been easily removed -- and rapidly convertable to another cold shoe onto which other devices can be mounted.

This camera needs 3-4 of these shoe attachment places.

(fire away ...)
 
BARYE said:
that's actually a real good idea.

But the bottom line is that what this camera needs is more places onto which stuff can be mounted.

A camera should have the potential to mount 1-2 wireless receivers, a light, or firestore type device -- in addition to your mic of choice.

As it is, the mic arm is both badly designed and unadaptable to other uses. What makes it even worse is that this camera has almost no free available unobstructed flat surfaces onto which something can be velcroed.

As for me, I'll only use the mic arm when a light is needed and its using the hot shoe (something this camera needs much more often than I anticipated).

That mic arm should have been easily removed -- and rapidly convertable to another cold shoe onto which other devices can be mounted.

This camera needs 3-4 of these shoe attachment places.

(fire away ...)
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Sounds like you need a Fig Rig. You can mount mic's, lights and receivers directly.

S Cannon
 
BARYE said:
this camera has almost no free available unobstructed flat surfaces onto which something can be velcroed.
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You know that the backdoor has an internal metal hinge? It's sturdy enough. I've seen images that people used that door to place their receiver on with some velcro. It worked.

You already had answers on that. You need aftermarket tools to get your 4 coldshoes, or to add all the gear you named on the camera itself. Please send in a picture when your done, I am very curious to see all that equipment dangling on your A1.

(DVmultirig with 2 extra shoemounts is another answer for you.)
 
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We know the mic holder is too wide internaly. There are many options to work it out: add some tube, tape, the rubber ring option from magichristopher, the Rycote softiemount (fits perfect and gives you a mobile to place mic system, away from cam noise) A small piece foam etc.

BTW
I have no problems found with the shoe mount on the camera.
 
no I'm not lookiing for an iPod rack and an extra coffee warmer -- I want the camera simple and streamlined unless and until I need to attach stuff

having added shoe mounts would provide that flexibility

The back is where constantly used switches should be -- and the battery

Lose the dumb BNC hump and let me have ONE flat surface

And find Canon some ergonomic guru who didn't master his trade at the Stalin Institute of Glorious Peoples Design of Kazakhstan.
 
You are absolutely right, the designers did not think it over at all! If they saw off that stupid piece of glass on the front, you had a perfect smooth surface to place your Mickey mouse stickers on.

And all the buttons on the back -where it belongs- so you can lay down the cam and play chess, on those spare moments out of work.
 
xray said:
You are absolutely right, the designers did not think it over at all! If they saw off that stupid piece of glass on the front, you had a perfect smooth surface to place your Mickey mouse stickers on.

And all the buttons on the back -where it belongs- so you can lay down the cam and play chess, on those spare moments out of work.
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I'm sorry that I'm a little grumpy today (well a little grumpier than usual, anyway).I just used the XHA1 on a job I was bugged by some things.

Came to shoot some politicians in a hall where the press riser was much farther from the stage than normal. I was so far away that the best I could do was get a wide 2 shot.I desperately wanted then the seamless very decent 1.5-2x digital zoom that Sony provides for emergencies like this. An easy firmware addition -- but not provided.

At the last minute I thought about using a wireless but I didn't when I realized that there was no easy surface for the receiver. Were it not for that BNC HUMP, I could have velcroed it there...

Why must there be that HUMP -- and why could'nt the BNC have been located somewhere together with the other ports in some place like the front where access is unneeded during shooting -- instead of the back where most now are ??

(I might take a chance and try velcroing it to the battery door -- but I'm leery of breaking the plastic latch)
 
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Thinking 'the last minute about using a wireless' and realise that you couldn't place the receiver sounds....DUMB? And using a wireless mic on politicians... but you could't get closer to the shoot? I have the impression that you worked too long on consumercams before looking at the A1. You keep comparing it with your Sony VX2100. Maybe that is the best option for you: trade your VX in for a V1.

To be honest to you, I don't want 4 coldshoes or 2x digital zoom, or all buttons on the back, or a BNC connector on the front, no microphone holder, an outside placed batterie, and any other options you mentioned and you think will work.
(I forgot some things, your 'I dont like this' list was longer.)

I was surprised to see digital zoom on the Sony V1, but you can find it on all (cheap) consumer digitalcams. It is just interpolating pixels, something you can do better in post. But the best for you is: to take position with your Sony where you can make a good shot.
 
BARYE said:
At the last minute I thought about using a wireless but I didn't when I realized that there was no easy surface for the receiver. Were it not for that BNC HUMP, I could have velcroed it there...
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Just get a Bracket One and forget about it.
 
philnerd said:
I've installed my shock mount in the shoe and don't remember any issues.

The shock mount screws down and clamps the shoe, so not sure how it could not work... what shock mount are you using?
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this does not work because if i use the screw to tighten it below, the top becomes a wobble head ( bobble head? )

causing even more thwomping sounds.
 
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