C100: Magic Lantern RAW CinemaDNG for C canon camera and 1DC?

1. I think Canon loves this whole thing. They get to sell more Mark 3's, lenses to go with them, etc.
2. Someone who wants a camera that is cost effective, cheap media, with good DR, excellent low light, great high iso, nd filters, good audio, ready to shoot multiple projects all day long on 2 batteries, and has a painless post work flow will absolutely consider the C100 over the MK3.
3. The only DSLR camera that Canon doesn't want being hacked is the 1D series, the rest of them getting hacked just means more sales.
 
maarek said:
That is just nonsense. The colors from the C300 cameras are not even accurate, Canon just tints the skin colors. There are side-effects to that treatment and I'd much rather do it in post than in cam.

But claiming that the 5d has skintones like buttholes is completely ridiculous. I know it's easy to make hyperbolic statements on the internet but that's just so over-the-top it's funny. I tested the 5d in RAW-mode and it looks great. It looks really great.
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Some want accurate color and some want pleasant color. C300 is pleasant color. If you got some solid raw 5d skin tones that you didn't have to do secondary color correct too feel free to post.
 
We should come up with a kickstart/indiegogo/whatever to get someone from a Canon service centre to sneak a copy of the firmware out so we can figure out how its firmware compares to the 1Dx.
 
RZE said:
If you got some solid raw 5d skin tones that you didn't have to do secondary color correct too feel free to post.
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Nonsense. If you have to correct the skintones on the 5d, then you have to correct them on Sonys/other cams too. Learn to shoot, learn to grade, learn to look at skin tones and light them properly when you shoot. For example, how much better can the C300 do these skintones (shot on the 5dmarkIII):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F5BsvBR14xM&hd=1

What is the "perfect" skintone for you RZE? Red?
 
RZE said:
At the end of the day 1024 is not always better than 256. I'll take the skintones coming of the c series 12 bit sensor any day of the week over the 5d even with 14 bits
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Really?... Because if I can't find a decent skin tone somewhere in 1024 options, I should probably take up cooking.

I would think 5D skin tones not looking good would be an opinion as well.
 
maarek said:
Nonsense. If you have to correct the skintones on the 5d, then you have to correct them on Sonys/other cams too. Learn to shoot, learn to grade, learn to look at skin tones and light them properly when you shoot. For example, how much better can the C300 do these skintones (shot on the 5dmarkIII):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F5BsvBR14xM&hd=1

What is the "perfect" skintone for you RZE? Red?
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This was a c series shot from my last project for mareeks lighting insinuations. I'm looking for the bcam 5d footage to post. The background light was a 1k fresnel with lee 118 moonlight blue. c300 rendered the blue like my eye saw it, the 5d rendered it purple. I'm not impressed by 14 bits if it doesn't map color correctly, especially not when 8 bit cameras are performing so well.
 
I brought my 1D C to Canon Taiwan for upgrade today and here is what I learned, the technician assured me there are no hardware changes, however, they do not have the firmware either, they can only upgrade the camera via online connection with Canon Japan (and I only came to know this because first they told me it will take only 30 min. to upgrade, and then one hour went, two hours went, finally the technician came out and told me it took this long because the link to Japan kept breaking up, I was like "link to Japan?").

I don't know if it's the same case in bigger markets like USA or Europe though.
 
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Tom2517 said:
I brought my 1D C to Canon Taiwan for upgrade today and here is what I learned, the technician assured me there are no hardware changes, however, they do not have the firmware either, they can only upgrade the camera via online connection with Canon Japan.

I don't know if it's the same case in bigger markets like USA or Europe though.
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Same in the UK.
here is what I learned: the reason for not making the firmware downloadable is for preventing hacks, also there are some sensor testing (according to US source), also the firmware for US and EU is slightly different, the difference is confidential though (the source wouldn't tell me)
 
RZE said:
This was a c series shot from my last project for mareeks lighting insinuations. I'm looking for the bcam 5d footage to post. The background light was a 1k fresnel with lee 118 moonlight blue. c300 rendered the blue like my eye saw it, the 5d rendered it purple. I'm not impressed by 14 bits if it doesn't map color correctly, especially not when 8 bit cameras are performing so well.
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Wow. Those skintones truly look...red. 5d cannot possibly reproduce that. It can only do cyan. It is so bad that anyone who really needs completely red skintones should never use it for anything. I bet all the bits would never help you.

http://provideocoalition.com/aadams/story/cameras_thoughts_on_the_canon_c300s_color_science/
 
RZE said:
Some want accurate color and some want pleasant color. C300 is pleasant color. If you got some solid raw 5d skin tones that you didn't have to do secondary color correct too feel free to post.
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OK, I will.

And feel free to download them and toss them in your NLE and look at them in your vectorscopes. Dead on the skin tone line. No secondaries needed.

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I stand corrected in RAW context, thanks for posting. I've seen some horrible skin tones from RAW 5d on vimeo, but those look good. My b cam op on my last shoot was using a 5d mark ii and close ups where not up to snuff, but it seems possible to get decent results. I'm glad at least some people have work to post when they get assertive.
 
RZE said:
I stand corrected in RAW context, thanks for posting. I've seen some horrible skin tones from RAW 5d on vimeo, but those look good. My b cam op on my last shoot was using a 5d mark ii and close ups where not up to snuff, but it seems possible to get decent results. I'm glad at least some people have work to post when they get assertive.
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It's been my theory for a while now. You can't just a camera by what we see online from other users. We have little idea of how they grade, light, what the conditions were. The only way to judge a camera is to actually use it for ourselves so that we can get our minds into the color correction and camera calibration process to suit our individual needs and processes.

For my stills work, each of my cameras have a camera profile that I've created in Lightroom. That is why Lightroom and ACR has "camera calibration" in the program.
 
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