Mad Max: Trailer looks awesome!
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dmitrizigany
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Here's some rather interesting BTS shots. Seems like a lot of stuff is done for real! Impressive!
http://youtu.be/_Wc58__rEFQ
http://youtu.be/_Wc58__rEFQ
dmitrizigany
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I think the idea was that the story is one long car chase pretty much. I'm super excited but also a bit worried that it will be too much action and explosions. My favourite is still the first Mad Max, it's more of a dystopia on a psychological level.
Mitch Gross
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I would certainly hope not. That was the failure of several imitators. If you count the minutes of action in the Max Max films it actually isn't that much, but the impact is greater because of the way in which the films build up to them. I might be one of the few who really liked the humanity and statements on society and civilization in Beyond Thunderdome, but it is what gave that film great resonance for me. I do wish the action in the film could have been bigger, as the final sequence was disappointing after The Road Warrior. Perhaps the simplicity and purity of The Road Warrior is what made it so great (Gas = Life, what is one's purpose?), just like in many ways the original film was a revenge story, hence the "mad" in Mad Max. I think there may something about water in this new one just as there was gas in Road Warrior, and the women in the gauzy white dresses look like some biblical nymphs. Who knows, but I don't want to learn any ore until it hits the theaters so I can take it in for myself.
Scott F
Pug Life
Oh yeah. That one plays with the psyche. In the back of my mind, we could be one world war away from a Mad Max-style post-apocalyptic reality.
But on a higher note, let's talk about the fact that Hugh Keays Burn is in the new one. The Toecutter...role of a lifetime! "That's Kundalini. And Kundalini wants his hand back."
Batutta
Major Contributor
Well the reviews are rolling in, and words like masterpiece and comparisons to Raiders of the Lost Ark are being thrown around. Officially excited as hell--
http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/mad_max_fury_road/
http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/mad_max_fury_road/
Egg Born Son
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Saw Mad Max tonight. No spoilers.
Ignore the internet. Talk of enviromental brow-beating, ISIS, militant feminism and other stupidity from the internet is drawing a really really long bow and tells you a lot more about the commentators than the film. This is a straight up balls to the wall high octane post apocalyptic action movie.
The bad - Tom Hardy is not Mad Max. Not even close. The good. The movie isn't about him, and it IS a Mad Max movie. Oh yes it is. The action scenes will blow your friggin mind! If watching this movie has even crossed your mind, then go and see it. You may or may not be disappointed about some aspects of it but you will not feel cheated, you will not ask for your money back. Theron is fantastic. The baddies are everything you would hope for in a Mad Max film. Tom Hardy isn't terrible. But that's not good enough if you want to be Mad Max. His accent is all over the place, the presence just isn't there and he plays his part without subjection to sufficient coercion. At moments he almost gives you a glimpse but falls short even then and overall it would possibly be better without him. And I am a Tom Hardy fan.
Fortunately this is not his movie. A Mad Max film is first about the vehicular carnage, second about the post apocalyptic setting, third about beautifully over the top baddies and sidekicks and even with Gibson was only ever fourth about Max. The first three elements deliver in spades. The story is a bit weak, in parts the script is a little clunky and there are some plot elements that go nowhere (except perhaps the cutting room floor?). But it doesn't really matter, it delivers what it needs to. It delivers big budget thrills without losing it's B-grade heart. Fans of australian exploitation cinema will recognise a few faces.
To address Mitch's concerns, Hollywood has long been incapable of achieving decent action. Action sequences, yes. Action storytelling, not for many years. Like the Hollywood sex scene, the movie stops for it. Stop movie. Have an action sequence. Restart movie. Sometimes an action scene serves to get from A to B but I can't remember the last time I saw an action movie truly advance story or character through action. So boring. So much money spent to draw a yawn. Even the likes of Joss Whedon bore me within minutes and drop me out of the film waiting for the movie to start again. And don't get me started on the Wachowskis. There might be the occasional verbal exchange in the middle of a fight but ho-hum. And all CGI. I never ask how they did it, no one does. It's assumed anything is possible and now the surprise is when they can't, not when they can.
George Miller is a different beast. He is so visual. All the Mad Max films seem thin on the ground script wise but the stories are told through rich action, setting and character. This entire movie is told through action. Each act is a chase and almost all the developments and reveals happen within them. That isn't to say he doesn't still manage to find the necessary beats and quiet moments, at times in the middle of a chase.
Ignore the internet. Talk of enviromental brow-beating, ISIS, militant feminism and other stupidity from the internet is drawing a really really long bow and tells you a lot more about the commentators than the film. This is a straight up balls to the wall high octane post apocalyptic action movie.
The bad - Tom Hardy is not Mad Max. Not even close. The good. The movie isn't about him, and it IS a Mad Max movie. Oh yes it is. The action scenes will blow your friggin mind! If watching this movie has even crossed your mind, then go and see it. You may or may not be disappointed about some aspects of it but you will not feel cheated, you will not ask for your money back. Theron is fantastic. The baddies are everything you would hope for in a Mad Max film. Tom Hardy isn't terrible. But that's not good enough if you want to be Mad Max. His accent is all over the place, the presence just isn't there and he plays his part without subjection to sufficient coercion. At moments he almost gives you a glimpse but falls short even then and overall it would possibly be better without him. And I am a Tom Hardy fan.
Fortunately this is not his movie. A Mad Max film is first about the vehicular carnage, second about the post apocalyptic setting, third about beautifully over the top baddies and sidekicks and even with Gibson was only ever fourth about Max. The first three elements deliver in spades. The story is a bit weak, in parts the script is a little clunky and there are some plot elements that go nowhere (except perhaps the cutting room floor?). But it doesn't really matter, it delivers what it needs to. It delivers big budget thrills without losing it's B-grade heart. Fans of australian exploitation cinema will recognise a few faces.
To address Mitch's concerns, Hollywood has long been incapable of achieving decent action. Action sequences, yes. Action storytelling, not for many years. Like the Hollywood sex scene, the movie stops for it. Stop movie. Have an action sequence. Restart movie. Sometimes an action scene serves to get from A to B but I can't remember the last time I saw an action movie truly advance story or character through action. So boring. So much money spent to draw a yawn. Even the likes of Joss Whedon bore me within minutes and drop me out of the film waiting for the movie to start again. And don't get me started on the Wachowskis. There might be the occasional verbal exchange in the middle of a fight but ho-hum. And all CGI. I never ask how they did it, no one does. It's assumed anything is possible and now the surprise is when they can't, not when they can.
George Miller is a different beast. He is so visual. All the Mad Max films seem thin on the ground script wise but the stories are told through rich action, setting and character. This entire movie is told through action. Each act is a chase and almost all the developments and reveals happen within them. That isn't to say he doesn't still manage to find the necessary beats and quiet moments, at times in the middle of a chase.
dmitrizigany
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Going to see it tomorrow!
Apparently there's another script already written, with the working title 'Furiosa'. So I guess Miller is is lessening the dependence on Max himself. Maybe deliberately because Gibson is not in it anymore.
I'm still excited, although I'm not a super big fan of too much action. Strangely enough, I am a super huge fan of the first three Mad Max movies, but the car chases and vehicles were never my biggest interest in the movies. Could even do without them. Which is my worry about this one
Apparently there's another script already written, with the working title 'Furiosa'. So I guess Miller is is lessening the dependence on Max himself. Maybe deliberately because Gibson is not in it anymore.
I'm still excited, although I'm not a super big fan of too much action. Strangely enough, I am a super huge fan of the first three Mad Max movies, but the car chases and vehicles were never my biggest interest in the movies. Could even do without them. Which is my worry about this one
Scott F
Pug Life
SPOILERS
Saw it last night at an early screening and figured I would sleep on it before commenting. I didn't expect it to be amazing, but I felt it fell a bit short of my expectations. That being said, I am not really the right demographic for this type of film anymore. As I said a page or two back, you're only 12 years old once. I'm very surprised this one is coming in so high on Rotten Tomatoes given the snobby, elitist nature of the "top critics".
The Good:
All the chase scenes are wonderful. The vehicles are super, super cool. The rig driven by Furiosa is awesome. The "two hour car chase" synopsis is not far off the mark.
The editing is superb.
The new 'world' is quite intriguing.....great set design, costumes and art direction. (sorry to put so much in a nutshell)
Immortan Joe is an awesome villain.
The 5 Wives are cute
The Bad:
If you want a great action film with little plot, this is the movie for you. What was the driving force here? The gang escapes the Citidel, drives out in to the wastelands and then the big finale.......? They decide to go back from where they came! And they are greeted with open arms? No one in the upper echelon is going to protest that they killed their leader?
And we've already been through this two times already, the delusions of a promised land ("Nothing to do but breathe!" and "Tomorrow-morrow land" or whatever the kids called it) This time around, it was really disjointed...what they were looking for. There weren't any moments where I got misty eyed when a character died, or really angry at a villain. No emotional highs or lows in this one. Nor was there any sense of "needing" anything. As one critic mentioned, gas is plentiful and there is a bullet farm. As an audience, it was never really driven home how precious a resource water was. They had a tanker full of it and sprayed it around willy-nilly. "The Road Warrior" was all gas, gas, gas. Max would soak it up with a rag, for God's sake...not spray it around the desert!
That damn orange and teal grading! It is very harsh and noticeable in the first scenes but after a while, I tuned it out. There are some other color pallates they play with in different scenes. And from what I can tell, some bad day-for-night.
The grading really just seemed like a bad artistic choice and the flavor of the week, IMO
One final nit pick: The dude playing the electric guitar was just super, super dumb. Like something a latter-era George Lucas would have put in his films. And when Max used the guitar as a weapon.....cringe-worthy.
Alright, I saw Fury Road, now I can get on with the rest of my summer. I would go back for a 2nd viewing, no doubt. Maybe my opinions will change.
rogar-BigGrin(DBG)
Saw it last night at an early screening and figured I would sleep on it before commenting. I didn't expect it to be amazing, but I felt it fell a bit short of my expectations. That being said, I am not really the right demographic for this type of film anymore. As I said a page or two back, you're only 12 years old once. I'm very surprised this one is coming in so high on Rotten Tomatoes given the snobby, elitist nature of the "top critics".
The Good:
All the chase scenes are wonderful. The vehicles are super, super cool. The rig driven by Furiosa is awesome. The "two hour car chase" synopsis is not far off the mark.
The editing is superb.
The new 'world' is quite intriguing.....great set design, costumes and art direction. (sorry to put so much in a nutshell)
Immortan Joe is an awesome villain.
The 5 Wives are cute
The Bad:
I thought you said no spoilers, Egg Born! Haha, I saw a glimpse of your post before showtime and I gotta tell you, that's about the only thing spoilerish I went into the theatre with. And boy, are you right. I have a new-found appreciation for Mel Gibson's acting in those three original films. Especially 'The Road Warrior'. A high percentage of his acting is body language given the lack of dialogue, and Gibson was just gifted in that department. It's not the Thomas Hardy is bad, but the bar has been set so high and all we're doing here is trying to re-invent the wheel....it just doesn't work for me. No memorable lines (I can think of about 4 good ones from Road Warrior off the top of my head) Hell, it really is Theron's film...Max is hardly the driving force here.
Thank you.
If you want a great action film with little plot, this is the movie for you. What was the driving force here? The gang escapes the Citidel, drives out in to the wastelands and then the big finale.......? They decide to go back from where they came! And they are greeted with open arms? No one in the upper echelon is going to protest that they killed their leader?
And we've already been through this two times already, the delusions of a promised land ("Nothing to do but breathe!" and "Tomorrow-morrow land" or whatever the kids called it) This time around, it was really disjointed...what they were looking for. There weren't any moments where I got misty eyed when a character died, or really angry at a villain. No emotional highs or lows in this one. Nor was there any sense of "needing" anything. As one critic mentioned, gas is plentiful and there is a bullet farm. As an audience, it was never really driven home how precious a resource water was. They had a tanker full of it and sprayed it around willy-nilly. "The Road Warrior" was all gas, gas, gas. Max would soak it up with a rag, for God's sake...not spray it around the desert!
That damn orange and teal grading! It is very harsh and noticeable in the first scenes but after a while, I tuned it out. There are some other color pallates they play with in different scenes. And from what I can tell, some bad day-for-night.
^ Yeah....just like they did in the first 3 films, right? Crank up the teals and oranges? hahaha. Did the desert look desaturated in "Thunderdome"?
The grading really just seemed like a bad artistic choice and the flavor of the week, IMO
One final nit pick: The dude playing the electric guitar was just super, super dumb. Like something a latter-era George Lucas would have put in his films. And when Max used the guitar as a weapon.....cringe-worthy.
Alright, I saw Fury Road, now I can get on with the rest of my summer. I would go back for a 2nd viewing, no doubt. Maybe my opinions will change.
rogar-BigGrin(DBG)Great video.
dmitrizigany
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I saw it yesterday. I agree that Tom Hardy was weak as Max. But left the movie rather impressed. Want to see it again in 2D, it was only available in original language in 3D here, and I refuse to watch dubbed movies. No matter what language the original is.
Tom Hardy and the 3D was my main issues with it, so want to watch it again before making my final judgement.
But at least 100x better than all the trillion super hero and hobbit movies coming out every year.
Tom Hardy and the 3D was my main issues with it, so want to watch it again before making my final judgement.
But at least 100x better than all the trillion super hero and hobbit movies coming out every year.
Batutta
Major Contributor
This movie was a work of art. The flaws it has aren't the kind that matter all that much. People bothered that Max wasn't the focal point of the story must not have watched the other films that closely. He was really only the focus of the first film. This one pretty much follows the template set by the Road Warrior of Max as an outsider being caught up in a conflict between two warring groups, picking a side first for selfish reasons, then for moral ones. The only difference is that Furiosa is such a strong singular protagonist she dominates the proceedings more than any previous character in the Max series. But I think that's great. Now we have two great heroes in this series instead of one. After this, I'd be perfectly happy seeing a Furiosa movie without Max in it at all. I thought Hardy was fine taken in context. Perhaps Gibson would have brought more legacy to the part, which would have helped fill in the details of his character. Hardy in the role feels like a different person, so I think people want to know more about him. Gibson would have brought the memories of the previous films with him so you wouldn't have to do as much. The teal and orange grading didn't bother me as much in the theater but I saw it in 3D, so the glasses probably dulled the colors somewhat. I'm not sure I'd recommend the 3D, although that finale does have an amusing, comin' at ya 3D moment. A lot of the action has that stuttering, high shutter speed effect which doesn't reproduce well in 3D.
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Batutta
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I literally re-watched it two days ago. Max is not an outsider to the main conflict, which is between the gangs and the police force, of which he is a member. And the last third it's just him and them. Its kind of the opposite story. First he fights for moral reasons, then selfish ones.
The original Mad Max followed just about the same arc as The Patriot: he was involved, and clearly had a side, but would rather have just stayed with his family, and tried to stay out of it until his family was attacked, killed, otherwise made dead. Then he was balls-to-the-wall all about getting the people who did his family in. We followed his arc.
Mitch Gross
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The was an arc to Max's character in The Road Warrior as well. Remember, he volunteers to drive the truck after first not wanting anything to do with the others.
And of course in Beyond Thunderdome he repeatedly states that he doesn't care about anyone else and only has self-interest, and then promptly gives selflessly when the moment of decision comes. First by not killing Blaster, then carrying the little kid on his shoulders, and finally by crashing his truck so that the others could escape by plane.
The original three films form a character arc, which is why Miller stated that Fury Road likely belongs somewhere inside their timeline, perhaps between The Road Warrior and Beyond Thunderdome.
Spoiler: While I very much enjoyed the new film, I don't see quite how Max's character was evolving and what he felt when. The movie itself is about redemption and hope, but I don't really know where Max fit into all of that. That was in part a failing of Miller, but I also think a failing in what Hardy brought (or didn't bring) to the role. Not an easy thing to do, but I always felt like Gibson carried it quite well.
And of course in Beyond Thunderdome he repeatedly states that he doesn't care about anyone else and only has self-interest, and then promptly gives selflessly when the moment of decision comes. First by not killing Blaster, then carrying the little kid on his shoulders, and finally by crashing his truck so that the others could escape by plane.
The original three films form a character arc, which is why Miller stated that Fury Road likely belongs somewhere inside their timeline, perhaps between The Road Warrior and Beyond Thunderdome.
Spoiler: While I very much enjoyed the new film, I don't see quite how Max's character was evolving and what he felt when. The movie itself is about redemption and hope, but I don't really know where Max fit into all of that. That was in part a failing of Miller, but I also think a failing in what Hardy brought (or didn't bring) to the role. Not an easy thing to do, but I always felt like Gibson carried it quite well.
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