Lost - The Final Season Thread

Rashdan said:
I've enjoyed every previous season of Lost, but this season not so much. Mainly because of the explanations of the mysteries.i.e why they're there, what the smoke monster is, the purpose of the island. Everything has gone more overtly supernatural. Previously it was more science fictiony. I found things relating to the Dharma Initiative a lot more interesting, but they've pretty much explained everything about the Dharma Initiative in the previous season. They should have made the Dharma Initiative the reason why the Island was the way it was.
I'm currenly watching a version of lost that has been edited to run in chronological order (no flashbacks) and it is very interesting.
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Yeah, this season blows. More than everything going supernatural, I'm pretty annoyed if everything just boils down to "good" vs "Evil." That would be LAME. It seems like the closer we get, the more mundane the truth becomes.

I guess they could still pull some tricks out of their sleeves, but they'd better be some friggin bad-assed tricks, cause for the most part, they've been meandering through this season with not much to show for it, considering "The time for questions is OVER!!!!"
 
Couldn't possibly be more disappointing than the BSG ending. But then, my understanding is that the Lost folks actually had a plan all along.

The "good vs. evil" thing would not annoy me as much as something like the island being Atlantis or Lemuria.
 
That whole "candidate" thing is pretty lame. Reminds me of Survivor or Americal Idol. In which case Jacob is Paula Abdul (likes wine and thinks everyone is good) and TheManInBlack is Simon Cowell (straight talking and thinks everyone is bad). The final episode will probably be a phone-in vote show with Ryan Seacrest ("who will be the new Island Idol").

If TheManInBlack really is evil, the destruction of the Island should have released him, so the alternate reality should look a lot more like an apocalyptic nightmare, but it doesn't, which means Jacob is full of shiat. Unless Jacob, ManInBlack and Ricardo are living under the sea, under the sea, darling it's better, down where it's wetter, under the sea.
 
I think this proves that J.J. Abrams can start a show but he usually let's his stuff fizzle out or he doesn't really work on it and gives it to other people to handle and he goes off doing his next project.
 
Crimson_Fluid said:
I think this proves that J.J. Abrams can start a show but he usually let's his stuff fizzle out or he doesn't really work on it and gives it to other people to handle and he goes off doing his next project.
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Very true. Since he's become a big time movie director, I think he's only involved in the pilot episodes (Lost, Fringe) and then they use his name for marketing purposes. I'm really enjoying Fringe and the mythos feels a lot more solid.
 
Never really understood why people would want spoilers. But I never tried to figure out what my Christmas presents were, either. (That sort of drives my wife nuts.)
 
Richard J. Johnson said:
He did that with Alias. I miss that show.
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Yes I'm a huge Alias fan too especially Season 1-3 look at my avatar and he ruined it with beginning of the 4th season. That's when it went down hill. It was also the time when Lost first appeared and he was too busy working on that. I was mad he didn't film the last episode of Alias because of his Mission Impossible 3 commitments at the time. I like JJ Abrams for bringing me Alias but I also hate him for destroying Alias by not caring from the 4th season on. If I ever get the chance to meet him I'm going to tell him what I think. He switched up the start of 4th season by claiming that the file Sydney read at the end of the 3rd season wasn't about her but it was. That's kinda when everything went to hell. The last episode of the show was a complete catastrophe too.

Looks like he started Lost and was involved with a season or two of that then just left and went on to direct and produce movies. I can't blame him for making millions while he is a hot director/producer right now but as good as he his to come up with a show idea and story he doesn't know how to make a satisfying ending. I feel a good director/producer knows how to make a great ending to a story too and he just doesn't do that.
 
Every season begins with people complaining, thinking they know what the writers are doing and why, acting disappointed with the decisions being made, "not feeling it", etc etc... and then by the end of the season those same people are the ones with melted goo for brains, wondering how they could ever doubt such sheer brilliance. Obviously I'm generalizing and exaggerating a smidge, but the point remains.

Fact is, we don't know how this season is going to come to an end.. and more than that we dont know how this amazing story is going to resolve. One thing is for sure though, the writer's have never taken our trust for granted or let us down. They've consistently shown they have a purpose, have strong and relatable themes, and have delivered over and above pretty much everyone's expectations. The asterisk there is that most complaints about the show derive from individual preconceptions or viewing expectations not being met. Well.. sorry that their story doesnt fit in YOUR box! :p

Anyway, this season has had a few less-than-exciting moments to be sure, but overall I've thoroughly enjoyed it. Engaging performances, captivating storylines, brilliant thematic elements... will be a sad day next month when this show disappears from the air. Collectively, the quality of television will immediately sink.
 
Crimson_Fluid said:
Yes I'm a huge Alias fan too especially Season 1-3 look at my avatar and he ruined it with beginning of the 4th season. That's when it went down hill. It was also the time when Lost first appeared and he was too busy working on that. I was mad he didn't film the last episode of Alias because of his Mission Impossible 3 commitments at the time. I like JJ Abrams for bringing me Alias but I also hate him for destroying Alias by not caring from the 4th season on. If I ever get the chance to meet him I'm going to tell him what I think. He switched up the start of 4th season by claiming that the file Sydney read at the end of the 3rd season wasn't about her but it was. That's kinda when everything went to hell. The last episode of the show was a complete catastrophe too.

Looks like he started Lost and was involved with a season or two of that then just left and went on to direct and produce movies. I can't blame him for making millions while he is a hot director/producer right now but as good as he his to come up with a show idea and story he doesn't know how to make a satisfying ending. I feel a good director/producer knows how to make a great ending to a story too and he just doesn't do that.
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Cant speak on Alias, but with LOST the story is essentially that he and Damon Lindelof were brought in by ABC to write a pilot (the previous idea they had was scrapped). They wrote a 25-page outline of the story of LOST, filmed the pilot, JJ stayed around for another episode or two and then handed the reins over to Damon. Damon recruited Carlton Cuse and the rest is history. Damon\Carlton have fine-tuned the "Bible" that JJ and Damon originally created, but for the most part have stuck to that path. Obviously there has to be room for creativity to breath when developing a serial TV show, but the notion that these guys have had a plan since the beginning is completely accurate (for example, Damon\JJ always intended for the two black and white gamepieces that Locke held up in the pilot episode when he was explaining the "rules" of backgammon, to be personified by two individuals of significance).

JJ is a collaborator and a motivator. He comes up with great ideas, gets them started, and then lets other see it through (LOST, Cloverfield, Fringe, etc). He did start out as a writer, afterall.
 
Well now things are getting interesting. Obvious spoilers aheah if you haven't seen the episode... it's lost for crying out loud.

So, desmond in the other time line is starting to figure things out. I was starting to wonder when the other time line would feel something is off. But the one thing that struck me was when Elenor said 'you have everything you've ever wanted, you have mr. witmore's approval' (or something to that effect)

Then I began to wonder, does everyone in that timeline have everything they wanted at one point or another, in a 'be careful what you wish for' manner? I mean desmond wanted Mr. witmore's acceptance because he was with penny, but in this timeline he has his approval, but doesn't have penny (and seems isn't supposed to). Then what about Jack, he mentioned at one point that he wanted to be a good father. Now he somehow has a son and just made up with his son recently?

Hmmm...
 
Jon Starr said:
Then I began to wonder, does everyone in that timeline have everything they wanted at one point or another, in a 'be careful what you wish for' manner? I mean desmond wanted Mr. witmore's acceptance because he was with penny, but in this timeline he has his approval, but doesn't have penny (and seems isn't supposed to). Then what about Jack, he mentioned at one point that he wanted to be a good father. Now he somehow has a son and just made up with his son recently?

Hmmm...
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That's an interesting idea...
Jin and Sun have a much more open relationship.
Hurely is rich and is able to help people with his money.
John Locke has accepted his condition.

And lest we forget Juliet's last line "It worked". Meaning in the blast she, like Desmond, got a glance at her life never meeting Sawyer.
 
Also, Jin seems to have more power and the acceptance of Suns father... though that didn't work out too well when he found out about the relationship. Thus the whole 'be careful what you wish for'.

Also Sun is a lot happier with Jin, when in the past she was almost ready to leave him.

Don't forget that Hurley's numbers are now lucky. ;) Wonder what his episode will show.
 
This better get good real fast. They only have a few episodes left and last night's was one of the worst in a while.
 
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