Zephyrnoid
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I love my funky old CCD Canon HV20 ( of course tape sucks). Unfortunately, a big enough CCD sensor would be cost prohibitive . The HV20 uses a 1/3 sensor as I recall.
GH3 Looking Good, Stop Worrying - Watch This New GH3 Video Review!
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I love my funky old CCD Canon HV20 ( of course tape sucks). Unfortunately, a big enough CCD sensor would be cost prohibitive . The HV20 uses a 1/3 sensor as I recall.
Bern Caughey
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Be careful what you wish for.
CCDs are typically slower than CMOS sensors, & often have their own imaging quirks.
I'm hoping for a Global CMOS.
Lastly I don't know where you got the hot rod HV20 with the CCD sensor, as Canon only produced CMOS versions.
CCDs are typically slower than CMOS sensors, & often have their own imaging quirks.
I'm hoping for a Global CMOS.
Lastly I don't know where you got the hot rod HV20 with the CCD sensor, as Canon only produced CMOS versions.
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Because when Canon was courting him to put him at the head of their engineering division, they gave him a special edition CCD version of the HV20, duh!
I'm skeptical of that claim. While it was thought that CMOS would be cheaper, from my reading it seems the overall costs of production is about the same for both.
That would also be acceptable.
Total cost for hardware and software for CCD cameras can be significantly higher as all of the gain and AD conversion is done by external boards and processors, but you have the same costs in initial development of CMOS sensors. Once you have the sensor in hand though CMOS is significantly cheaper as the supporting hardware and software is much simpler.
Zephyrnoid
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Zephyrnoid
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I think we all realize that. It's just visually dis-consonant to be SEEING with a $8,000 camera a demo about a $1,200 camera.
Plus I've always detested the long drawn out walk-throughts of features.
I don't need the evangelism, just the samples.
Nice job though!
Zephyrnoid
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Well put but I'd change that order for the Chinese Alexa into a Japanese (Sony) PMW-F55 instead
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Bern Caughey
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What I like about this video is the demonstration of the external controls, & menu. Didn't get a feel for those anywhere else on the web.
terra1
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http://www.digitalcamerainfo.com/content/Panasonic-Lumix-GH3-Digital-Camera-Review.htm
another review (pre-production 0.5 firmware)
is this suggesting no ETC mode?
didn't see them mention it anywhere else in there review.
another review (pre-production 0.5 firmware)
is this suggesting no ETC mode?
didn't see them mention it anywhere else in there review.Looks like they missed it completely.
Here's the specs from the Panasonic web page:
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[TD="width: 366"]Extra Tele Conversion
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[TD="class: value, width: 398"]Still image: Max.2x (Not effective with L size recording. Magnification ratio depends on the recording pixels and aspect ratio.) / Motion image: 2.4x, 3.6x, 4.8x (Magnification ratio depends on the recording quality and aspect ratio.)
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There is a line right above this in the specs that shows digital zoom of 2x and 4x, but I believe that is just a magnifier in live view and not acctually a recording mode.
http://shop.panasonic.com/shop/model/DMC-GH3KBODY?t=specs
Cheers,
Pete
Here's the specs from the Panasonic web page:
[TABLE="class: lines, width: 765"]
[TR]
[TD="width: 366"]Extra Tele Conversion
[/TD]
[TD="class: value, width: 398"]Still image: Max.2x (Not effective with L size recording. Magnification ratio depends on the recording pixels and aspect ratio.) / Motion image: 2.4x, 3.6x, 4.8x (Magnification ratio depends on the recording quality and aspect ratio.)
[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]
There is a line right above this in the specs that shows digital zoom of 2x and 4x, but I believe that is just a magnifier in live view and not acctually a recording mode.
http://shop.panasonic.com/shop/model/DMC-GH3KBODY?t=specs
Cheers,
Pete
terra1
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yeah i've seen some specs that miss it out the ETC details for some reason, and some that include them. there was a photo around somewhere of a manual and it stated no ETC mode in video!
i'm hoping that it may have been left out of early demo manual as it may not have been operational on the pre-production models.it better be in there! i've been looking forward to that nice little free feature!
i'm sure it will be in the final FW. probably worrying myself over nothing.Wesley Byram
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yeah i've seen some specs that miss it out the ETC details for some reason, and some that include them. there was a photo around somewhere of a manual and it stated no ETC mode in video!
it better be in there! i've been looking forward to that nice little free feature!
iirc, Philip Bloom stated that he used ETC for a few shots in "Genesis." Barry Green has also stated that ETC is still there, so there's no need to worry.
terra1
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philip bloom & barry green?! what do those two guys know about anything!*
yeah i'm sure it will be in there when released
its a nice extra feature to have.roll on UK release date!
*just kidding
Zephyrnoid
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Somewhat impressive review! Too bad I've left still photography ( so he says) , so I hope the video issues will be solved.
question to the connocienti. Why no ISO 100 ? or is that a non-issue with these sensors?m I've been living in ISO 50 for 8 years. It'll be nice to step out 'into the sunshine'.
question to the connocienti. Why no ISO 100 ? or is that a non-issue with these sensors?m I've been living in ISO 50 for 8 years. It'll be nice to step out 'into the sunshine'.
adammada
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Bern Caughey
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Looks completely useable. At least on my iPad.
Would love to know the test's technical details, such as the color temperature of the lighting, & whether noise reduction was applied in post. Perhaps the reviewer mentioned these, but I don't speak the language.