Looking for 70-200mm f2.8 lens
- Thread starter Lucian
- Start date
In any brand? Doesn't have to be Canon,
ydgmdlu
Veteran
That's what I mean. When I say "EF-S," I'm referring to the lens mount plus the fact that the lens is designed for APS-C.
There is no EF-S lens of any brand in the specifications that you want. Why not buy a full-frame (EF) lens?
KeithAndrews.TV
Well-known member
Just picked myself up a Canon EF 70-200mm f/2.8 for $900 on eBay. Don't spend the extra $500-$600 on the IS model unless you are really certain you will be shooting in low light all the time with a high shutter speed. I read the reviews at the-digital-picture.com and they were saying that it is a nice commodity for confidence, but not completely necessary. As far as the "other" brands, don't bother, just invest in the Canon EF 70-200mm f/2.8 and you won't be unhappy. There are too many comprimises with the others in terms of optical and build quality.
iniosante
Member
The Sigma 70-200mm f/2.8 is a good alternative to the Canon. I've used both and the Canon is better than the Sigma but it costs more than twice as much. Both are designed for full frame. To the best of my knowledge, there are no specific 1.6 crop zoom-tele lenses in this focal range. But I don't know if there is really a need for it as all of the ff lenses work perfectly on all crop cameras.
Ash
www.iniosante.com
Alpha Beta Omega
Veteran
I used a Sigma 70-200/2.8 this summer and I can tell you it's tricky to handle zoom and focus at the same time. But if you use these lenses at a fixed focal they have excellent bookeh.
What!?
Are you aware that this is a video oriented forum?
In video, IS is useful to reduce shakiness in footage no matter what shutter speed you use (most likely 1/50th @ 24p) and whatever aperture you use.
You could be shooting at 1/2000th in broad daylight that IS would still make a difference by making the shot steadier.
--X
KeithAndrews.TV
Well-known member
One word for you, TRIPOD. You wouldn't want to use a 200mm lens even with IS on a sub frame camera for video unless you were securely mounted to a tripod.
All this talk of IS makes me wonder if I'll be able to shoot with my EF 50mm 1.4 USM Prime anywhere but on a tripod...
I sorta wish I had w8ed on the Tamron 17-50 2.8 with IS but I got excited and bought the one that's available now...no IS. I wonder if I'll be able to shoot handheld with it? IIRC, none of the Ikegami ENG cameras I used to shoot with had any form of IS.
I sorta wish I had w8ed on the Tamron 17-50 2.8 with IS but I got excited and bought the one that's available now...no IS. I wonder if I'll be able to shoot handheld with it? IIRC, none of the Ikegami ENG cameras I used to shoot with had any form of IS.
KeithAndrews.TV
Well-known member
That's why I think the Canon EF-S 15-85mm IS lens is going to be a great lens for video production use. Wide, relatively fast, and built in IS for run and gun shooting.
Depends on badly it breaths. I'm hoping Canon took the needs of the new 7D into account when designing it.
Yes... I doubt you can find an old 70-200 2.8 without AF
No, i use tripods so probably no need for IS.
I sure don't want to hyjack (and will start a new thread if ya'll want) but I would like to know if seasoned shooters consider IS a must have for handheld vDLSR shooting. I know everything handheld looks steadier when it's wider but what is wide enough on a 7D...50mm...28mm...17mm?
KeithAndrews.TV
Well-known member
From my experiences and from the experiences of others on the forum, IS can be a good thing and a bad thing. It certainly does help longer, hand-held shots and gives your video a look similar to what larger, heavier video cameras can produce, however, it can wreak havoc on pans/tilts. The IS on still lenses is not designed the same way the IS is on say the HMC150, or DVX100. Also, I know most already know this, but always remember to turn off IS when shooting off a tripod. Panning and tilting a camera from a tripod with IS turned on can make the move appear to be delayed initially.
From Chuck Westfall of Canon:
“The IS mechanism operates by correcting shake. When there is no shake, or when the level of shake is below the threshold of the system’s detection capability, use of the IS feature may actually *add* unwanted blur to the photograph, therefore you should shut it off in this situation. Remember that the IS lens group is normally locked into place. When the IS function is active, the IS lens group is unlocked so it can be moved by the electromagnetic coil surrounding the elements. When there’s not enough motion for the IS system to detect, the result can sometimes be a sort of electronic ‘feedback loop,’ somewhat analogous to the ringing noise of an audio feedback loop we’re all familiar with. As a result, the IS lens group might move while the lens is on a tripod, unless the IS function is switched off and the IS lens group is locked into place.”
From Chuck Westfall of Canon:
“The IS mechanism operates by correcting shake. When there is no shake, or when the level of shake is below the threshold of the system’s detection capability, use of the IS feature may actually *add* unwanted blur to the photograph, therefore you should shut it off in this situation. Remember that the IS lens group is normally locked into place. When the IS function is active, the IS lens group is unlocked so it can be moved by the electromagnetic coil surrounding the elements. When there’s not enough motion for the IS system to detect, the result can sometimes be a sort of electronic ‘feedback loop,’ somewhat analogous to the ringing noise of an audio feedback loop we’re all familiar with. As a result, the IS lens group might move while the lens is on a tripod, unless the IS function is switched off and the IS lens group is locked into place.”
