Long Glass

aguia

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I mean LONG.

What is your preference for day/available light 300mm and over? Why?

Rentals are not generally an option for me, and yes I really need something this long.
 
I tried a Canon 400mm f/2.8 L IS (800mm effective on the AF100), and could get decent, slow pans with it. Haven't tried it with the 1.4X and 2X TCs, which work great and well (respectively) for stills on Canon bodies.
 
I tried a Canon 400mm f/2.8 L IS (800mm effective on the AF100), and could get decent, slow pans with it. Haven't tried it with the 1.4X and 2X TCs, which work great and well (respectively) for stills on Canon bodies.

Which tripod/head?
 
"The Howitzer" Nikon 50-300mm is an excellent, sharp, kick-ass glass.

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Gives you 600mm FOV on the AF-100.

Any more than that and you should be thinking about hooking the Hubble Space Telescope up to your camera.
 
Had it on the Sachtler FSB-6

(don't try this at home, I'm a professional clown, read my signature to remove lingering doubt, may cause drowsiness, etc.)

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Footage:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HT-XIxDBlT8

Ah, EF version, quite as bit lighter than the FD but (of course) no aperture control.

I'm currently using a Leica Telyt-R 250mm F4, which is relatively compact and makes gorgeous imagery but I need more reach and the 250 is incompatible with teleconvertors. I'm also working with about a 20lb. limit for the tripod-head combination I use. I'm looking at a few options:

350mm f4.8 Leica Telyt-R
Canon 300mm F2.8 FD + 1.4x FD teleconvertor
Canon 400mm F4.5 FD
Nikon 400mm F3.5 ED

The Nikon would be the most expensive of the bunch and the heaviest.
 
I found an old 300mm mirror lens in a box in my old office... It's not the sharpest, and it's fixed at f8, so you have to play with ISO and filters, but it's so light you don't need a support.
 
I would look at the Tamron 300 2.8 sp if lens. You should be able to find one for under 1000. I had one for awhile (i very much regret selling it) and it was sharp and fast. Came with a specially matched 1.4x converter too
 
We had some good results using the Nikon 400 2.8 (even with a 2x teleconverter) - few shots here. Will have better graded material up soon.


http://www.vimeo.com/23108389

But this lens is maddeningly expensive to buy. We rented.

Had some rather good results with an old Vivitar 100 - 500 Series 1 Zoom. But that one is 5.6 to 8.0 and you would have to search for one that is in really good condition - this thingies are a bit wobbly in built. But you can get one fairly cheap.

If you are mad enough, search for an old 600 - 1000 Vivitar - picture below. It's not really good but definitely very, very long.... ;-)

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I found an old 300mm mirror lens in a box in my old office... It's not the sharpest, and it's fixed at f8, so you have to play with ISO and filters, but it's so light you don't need a support.

Many really long and affordable lenses are mirror lenses and are not nearly as good as long lenses with more traditional design. Tele-extenders are great, but you lose two stops on a 2x. So it doubles your FoV but cuts your exposure down.

I tried a Canon 400mm f/2.8 L IS (800mm effective on the AF100), and could get decent, slow pans with it. Haven't tried it with the 1.4X and 2X TCs, which work great and well (respectively) for stills on Canon bodies.

Canon 400mm is effectively a 400mm on the AF100. It confuses people when you do a conversion. People who know the AF100 will know what lenses look like on it, no need to tell them what the equivalent would be on a full frame photography camera.

"The Howitzer" Nikon 50-300mm is an excellent, sharp, kick-ass glass.

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Gives you 600mm FOV on the AF-100.

Any more than that and you should be thinking about hooking the Hubble Space Telescope up to your camera.

Again. Why are we talking about 5D's? It's a 300mm lens. I know you know Matt, but for others, it's a 300mm lens. It gives a 300mm FoV on a AF100. If someone said, "what lens would I use on a 5DmII in order to get that same FoV?"... then you say 600mm. But a 300mm on a AF100 gives a 300mm FoV on that camera. If we can't say a 300mm lens on an AF100 is a 300mm lens, what is the point of even naming it 300mm?


Call me grumpy, but as a person who has never shot on a 5DmII, it's disheartening to have lenses being renamed and compared to just a single camera, not even a professional video camera at that. Maybe I just need some sleep.
 
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It could be largely the YouTube compression at work, but to be honest, for all its weight, bulk and undoubtedly astronomical price, that Panavision 300X lens doesn't look all that sharp.

There definitely ain't no such thing as a free lunch when it comes to lenses.

- Greg
 
I'm waiting (and waiting...) for the Birger to use our Canon 300 2.8 L IS (+ a 2X extender).

It's a beautiful piece of glass...

I would say it would give me an effective 1200mm on a full frame stills camera but Ryan would yell at me.

So even though it will, I won't...:happy:

 
It could be largely the YouTube compression at work, but to be honest, for all its weight, bulk and undoubtedly astronomical price, that Panavision 300X lens doesn't look all that sharp.

There definitely ain't no such thing as a free lunch when it comes to lenses.

- Greg

At those distances, it's not just optics, atmospheric distortion becomes a real issue. No fixing that, except maaaaybe shooting in very cold (dense) air.

I'm waiting (and waiting...) for the Birger to use our Canon 300 2.8 L IS (+ a 2X extender).

It's a beautiful piece of glass...

I would say it would give me an effective 1200mm on a full frame stills camera but Ryan would yell at me.

So even though it will, I won't...:happy:

LOL

No kidding... my 85 f/1.2 (electronic focus! aaargh!), 200 f/2 L IS, and 400 f/2.8 L IS, amongst others, are all pretty useless right now...
 
It could be largely the YouTube compression at work, but to be honest, for all its weight, bulk and undoubtedly astronomical price, that Panavision 300X lens doesn't look all that sharp.

There definitely ain't no such thing as a free lunch when it comes to lenses.

- Greg

At those distances, it's not just optics, atmospheric distortion becomes a real issue. No fixing that, except maaaaybe shooting in very cold (dense) air.

Yup! That isn't the lens not being sharp... that's what happens when you zoom a couple miles through hot atmosphere. I would like to see that optical zoom be taken to outer-space for a photo-shoot (where there is not any atmosphere)... but with the demise of the space shuttle, I doubt that will happen. I would really love to see how far in space that bad-boy could see. Especially at a T/1.9.
 
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