List of great EOS lenses
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Lenilenapi
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I have a question about the image stabilization lenses. I only see Canon IS lenses listed for the long lenses like the 70-200 but not for wide or mid range zooms like the 24-70. Though the APS lens for the 7D 17-55 is an IS lens. I don't see it for the normal or shorter tele lenses though it is on 17-55.
How come? When do you start needing the image stabilization.
I just ordered a Tamron 17-50 VC lens. Was the image stabilization a waste of money?
Lenny Levy
How come? When do you start needing the image stabilization.
I just ordered a Tamron 17-50 VC lens. Was the image stabilization a waste of money?
Lenny Levy
The Unknown
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interesting, no zeiss?
lenilenapi, in the still world the longer the lens the more u need IS. (your hand shake is more pronounce the more u zoom out)
U will see less shake in a wide angle. So alot of companies dont add IS to wide-ish lenses.
IS does make a difference, in some cases a huge one.
lenilenapi, in the still world the longer the lens the more u need IS. (your hand shake is more pronounce the more u zoom out)
U will see less shake in a wide angle. So alot of companies dont add IS to wide-ish lenses.
IS does make a difference, in some cases a huge one.
J Davis
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I have no experience with EOS mount zeiss. Have you used them?
50mm/1.4, 85mm/1.4, 100mm/2
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The Unknown
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a little, but i have alot with ZF (which should be the same) on canon bodies, which work great. Also with contax (zeiss) which are great also but slightly warmer.
I've barely used them, but the ZFs are said to be have the best mechanical feel of all SLR lenses. They feel great.
They are sharp, and cover FF35 (5D!). They are color matched.
Zeiss compact primes use the same lenses in a new housing.
They can be slow at the wide end but they do cover FF35, so that's why.
The faster 50mm has a lot of CA.
The best way to go is to get the Nikons which have manual aperture rings, and use good adapters, and that way they will also work on Nikon mounts.
They are sharp, and cover FF35 (5D!). They are color matched.
Zeiss compact primes use the same lenses in a new housing.
They can be slow at the wide end but they do cover FF35, so that's why.
The faster 50mm has a lot of CA.
The best way to go is to get the Nikons which have manual aperture rings, and use good adapters, and that way they will also work on Nikon mounts.
The Unknown
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Only digital body i have is a 5d so i dont have another camera to take a picture of it.
But i use a cheap adapter from china, works fine.
J Davis
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I think this lens is designed for a 'walk around lens' for still shooter, good quality but not at a pro level. If you are getting it with a 7D as a kit lens and you are sure thats the lens you want then it would be worth it because you get it cheaper (with kit).
If you already have a canon body and you are sure this is the lens you want then maybe look around at a used one. There are plenty of people buying the 7D kit because its available and then selling off the lens so it should be easy to get a brand new copy of this lens for around $300.
But is this really the lens you want? It may be a good starter lens but I think you would tire of it within a few months and want to upgrade to primes or better zooms.
edit .
as far as kit lenses and cheaper zooms, my choice in order would be
first choice 18-55mm f3.5-5.6 (because its cheap and quality is a little better than 28-135)
second choice 28-105mm f3.5-4.5
third choice would be 28-135 f3.5-5.6
last would be 18-135 f3.5-5.6
Remember this is only my opinion, everyone is going to have different priorities and tastes.
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Klinkenberger
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Excellent, that answers my question about getting old Canon FD mount primes. Don't.
I've found quite a lot of old Nikon primes that are good prices but i had some questions when using the adapter with the Nikon's on the 7D. Obviously I'll loose the auto focus but ill be using the redrockmicro FF so i have to make sure the focus rings are appropriate for getting the gears on them. I assume since they are primes and have no zoom rings, that the usually have nice big, non-sliding focus rings. Would you agree?
My other question is, when using Nikon lenses on an adapter for the 7D ill lose my metering (correct?) so with that, would i have to adjust all the light using a light-meter (adjusting the shutter speed and aperture )/by eye using the LCD? Does the 7D have zebras?
Do most of the old Nikon lenses have aperture rings? If they don't, how will I adjust it, since using the adapter would lose control of the aperture right?
I was reading how most Nikon mounts are all compatible, so I can almost get any nikon lens and it will fit on the adapter (with few exceptions like AF-D)? If not, what do these mean: Ai, Ais, Ov?
I know there is plenty of discussion on the adapters else where, ill be headed there next to find out which is best to buy. Sorry if this is off topic a bit but it was the first place I saw mentioning about the Canon FD lenses.
I've found quite a lot of old Nikon primes that are good prices but i had some questions when using the adapter with the Nikon's on the 7D. Obviously I'll loose the auto focus but ill be using the redrockmicro FF so i have to make sure the focus rings are appropriate for getting the gears on them. I assume since they are primes and have no zoom rings, that the usually have nice big, non-sliding focus rings. Would you agree?
My other question is, when using Nikon lenses on an adapter for the 7D ill lose my metering (correct?) so with that, would i have to adjust all the light using a light-meter (adjusting the shutter speed and aperture )/by eye using the LCD? Does the 7D have zebras?
Do most of the old Nikon lenses have aperture rings? If they don't, how will I adjust it, since using the adapter would lose control of the aperture right?
I was reading how most Nikon mounts are all compatible, so I can almost get any nikon lens and it will fit on the adapter (with few exceptions like AF-D)? If not, what do these mean: Ai, Ais, Ov?
I know there is plenty of discussion on the adapters else where, ill be headed there next to find out which is best to buy. Sorry if this is off topic a bit but it was the first place I saw mentioning about the Canon FD lenses.
I am pretty sure there are adapters that allow you to keep your metering, not sure about AF. They cost more.
The 7D doesn't have zebras, but it does have a clip area warning feature on review, not live. Live exposure tools in the 7D suck... bad... as in a real disappointment... but hey... consider what they cost.
The 7D doesn't have zebras, but it does have a clip area warning feature on review, not live. Live exposure tools in the 7D suck... bad... as in a real disappointment... but hey... consider what they cost.
J Davis
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careful there Roberto ... GH1 has live histos during record at any time :happy:
Faymus Media
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Question #1 - whats better between these lenses for video and pictures, but mainly video...?
tamron 17-50mm
tokina 11-16mm
canon 17-85mm
here is a link to the canon
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/351548-USA/Canon_9517A002BA_EF_S_17_85mm_f_4_5_6_IS.html
Question #2 - i just bought this lense, and the focus ring is on the tip, and even with the auto focus off it makes a gear noise when i turn it....
also wouldnt the fact that it has a 58mm ring tip that there is "less" actual glass on the end of the lense compared to a lense that has a 68mm ring tip?
here is the lense...
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/519475-USA/Canon_2042B002_EF_S_18_55mm_f_3_5_5_6_IS.html
tamron 17-50mm
tokina 11-16mm
canon 17-85mm
here is a link to the canon
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/351548-USA/Canon_9517A002BA_EF_S_17_85mm_f_4_5_6_IS.html
Question #2 - i just bought this lense, and the focus ring is on the tip, and even with the auto focus off it makes a gear noise when i turn it....
also wouldnt the fact that it has a 58mm ring tip that there is "less" actual glass on the end of the lense compared to a lense that has a 68mm ring tip?
here is the lense...
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/519475-USA/Canon_2042B002_EF_S_18_55mm_f_3_5_5_6_IS.html
J Davis
Veteran
Answer to Q1.
I think you can't compare the 11-16 to the other two because it is of different focal lengths. When comparing the 11-16 to others in its league the 11-16, IMO clearly shines.
Be careful with the Tamron, they have quality control issues, some copies are better than others. IMO, if you have a good copy it will be more useful than the canon, if not it would be the other way round. My first post on this thread has a link to Bob Atkins site which contains many lens reviews, including these two lenses.
http://www.bobatkins.com/photography/reviews/ef-s_17-85_review.html
http://www.bobatkins.com/photography/reviews/tamron_17-50_VC_review.html
Answer to Q2.
Turning the end focus should feel different when AF is off. If AF is on you would feel resistance. If they feel the same there might be a problem with the lens. Please don't forget this is a very inexpensive lens and should not be compared to lenses with similar range that cost $400+
My earlier posts about this lens highlighted the fact that it covers 3 useful lengths in film making and that it wins in sharpness tests when compared to the 28-135 and the 28-105.
I think you can't compare the 11-16 to the other two because it is of different focal lengths. When comparing the 11-16 to others in its league the 11-16, IMO clearly shines.
Be careful with the Tamron, they have quality control issues, some copies are better than others. IMO, if you have a good copy it will be more useful than the canon, if not it would be the other way round. My first post on this thread has a link to Bob Atkins site which contains many lens reviews, including these two lenses.
http://www.bobatkins.com/photography/reviews/ef-s_17-85_review.html
http://www.bobatkins.com/photography/reviews/tamron_17-50_VC_review.html
Answer to Q2.
Turning the end focus should feel different when AF is off. If AF is on you would feel resistance. If they feel the same there might be a problem with the lens. Please don't forget this is a very inexpensive lens and should not be compared to lenses with similar range that cost $400+
My earlier posts about this lens highlighted the fact that it covers 3 useful lengths in film making and that it wins in sharpness tests when compared to the 28-135 and the 28-105.
Faymus Media
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denzlite
Active member
Amazing thread. Just the info I need. I am a total newb when it comes to lenses. I plan on shooting 75% video / 25% stills. I did go with the kit lens on the T2i because I'm a newb so the advice here reassures me.
Rockmore, you said of the 18-55mm kit lens:
Q1: Can you or someone exlplain what that means?
Q3: Does anyone here have experience shooting video with the [FONT="]Canon EF 50mm f/1.8 II?
[/FONT]I noticed people going really gaga for this lens because of the quality you get for the price, but not really sure how a 50mm prime (which means it's a constant focal length right?) would be useful for video.
Thanks for the great thread!
Rockmore, you said of the 18-55mm kit lens:
Q1: Can you or someone exlplain what that means?
Q3: Does anyone here have experience shooting video with the [FONT="]Canon EF 50mm f/1.8 II?
[/FONT]I noticed people going really gaga for this lens because of the quality you get for the price, but not really sure how a 50mm prime (which means it's a constant focal length right?) would be useful for video.
Thanks for the great thread!
J Davis,
Awesome thread that I'm sure a lot of newbies like me who have been roaming this forum desperately trying to figure out all this foreign lingo you guys speak of... found extremely HELPFUL!!
I'll be the first to say it... never would I have thunk... that owning a DSLR could be this confusing.
Anyhow... might I ask you take a step further? Could you pick 3 lenses from your under $300 and 3 lenses from your under $600 list that a newbie would consider picking up first....and let us know for instance Lens A is perfect for shooting night scenes, Lens B is perfect for blah blah blah. I'm hesistant to buy the top 3 rates lens on those lens and end up buying lenses that will be doing the same thing instead of adding options to my lens collection.
I know it's kinda like holding our hands.. but that's honestly how I've felt since the day I bought that 7D few weeks ago. hahahaha
Thanks!!
Awesome thread that I'm sure a lot of newbies like me who have been roaming this forum desperately trying to figure out all this foreign lingo you guys speak of... found extremely HELPFUL!!
I'll be the first to say it... never would I have thunk... that owning a DSLR could be this confusing.
Anyhow... might I ask you take a step further? Could you pick 3 lenses from your under $300 and 3 lenses from your under $600 list that a newbie would consider picking up first....and let us know for instance Lens A is perfect for shooting night scenes, Lens B is perfect for blah blah blah. I'm hesistant to buy the top 3 rates lens on those lens and end up buying lenses that will be doing the same thing instead of adding options to my lens collection.
I know it's kinda like holding our hands.. but that's honestly how I've felt since the day I bought that 7D few weeks ago. hahahaha
Thanks!!