Lilliput Monitor with HMC150?

GRIMWORX said:
Im gonna go for the 11" arm I think, should offer plenty of movement!

The website seems unclear... does this monitor take a 'standard' HDMNI input, or the mini? It says something about both on the site but, im a little unclear as to exactly what it means. Obviously the hmc151 has a standard hmdi output.
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To add to what Neighborhood said, yes this monitor takes the standard larger HDMI size. What that means is that the HDMI cable they are shipping you will not work for the HMC150. So if you don't already have an HDMI cable you need to pick one up. The cable they give you is meant for the newer consumer cameras and I think DSLR's that come with a mini HDMI output. It is a good cable to have around, but won't work for your camera. BTW, I thought I would want a really short HDMI cable so I didn't have a bunch of extra cable, however I realized with the articulating arm, I can just use my 6-10 foot (can't remember the actual length) and I have a velcro tie (These are awesome: http://www.amazon.com/Velcro-Reusab...K82A/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1289675321&sr=8-2) that I use to tie the extra cable to the arm. Where this comes in handy is when I want to take the monitor off the arrm and put it on a table using the included stand (which by the way is pretty terrible because it was clearly not made for a monitor of this size, but it does work as long as you don't tilt it too much).
 
GRIMWORX said:
ah crap is 1.5 not the standard? is that a mini one?
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LOL, I'm sorry for that. I was wrong. Actually, 1.5 is referring to the length as in 1.5 Meters. Somewhere along the way I thought I read that it was HDMI to Mini HDMI...not sure where I got that. Mine happened to automatically come with an HDMI to Mini HDMI cable which is possibly why I thought you were getting one. So forget my comment, you do have the right cable coming to you.
 
Ya mine came with a Standard to Standard cable with 1 order... and no cables with the 2nd order. I don't think the HDMI is listed as included anyways.
 
Ive just recieved the monitor* this morning..

Everything seems great, although there is one problem.

When I select the Av option on the screen and set it to HMDI, I get an incredibly high pitched noise, what I would describe as 'feedback'. On another av mode I get the picture up fine. Is there a reason for this, what am I missing? Will I get a better picture on the HDMI setting or ?

Cheers
 
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This thread started with Lilliput monitors. They have an internal Lithium Ion battery. This is a good thing. Can iKan, Marshall or Panasonic say that?
 
I had the same problem with the high pitch noise!

The thing is that if your camera's microphone is to close to the speaker this happens. What you need to do is to turn down the volume on the monitor to zero, and it will dissapear!
 
Yep, turn down that volume when recording! Its great for playback though - Its always getting turned up and all the way down between shots.
 
Maybe you guys can help me out with a decision. I have been following this lilliput Monitor thread and I believe I am finally ready to get one to use with the tripod to help with focus and lighting. But I can't decide between these two different ones. Any thoughts on which one would be better?

1) http://cgi.ebay.com/Lilliput-7-669G...ultDomain_0&hash=item5adb596f49#ht_4028wt_956
This one has the most inputs and a longer lasting battery, which is also very easy to change out. The problem is I would need to buy some velcro to attach the battery and that just isn't appealing on the eyes.

2) http://cgi.ebay.com/Lilliput-7-668G...ultDomain_0&hash=item255e98928b#ht_4678wt_956
This one comes with two batteries, but to change them you would need to unscrew the back of the monitor. Comes with a sunshade, and is much cleaner design.
 
Hi

I really are close to get my fingers in the Lilliput 7 or 8 inch moniitor for my HMC 151E. But is it possible to buy this item any wehere in Europe? I live in Denmark, and have to pay taxes etc. for buying it from outside Europe...Anyone who knows a shop where I can buy both the monitor and the necessary stuff to get it mounted to my 151E?

Cheers
Morten
 
Hi Morten!

I live in Sweden and ordered a monitor from coollcd.com, it arrived in 3 days from china with DHL express (or whatever they call it when they come to you door with the package).

No taxes or import duties at all! I asked the man at the door and he said like "No when you have this type of shipping most of the times the package goes right through so it makes it on time".

Worth a try maybe? It worked for me!:)
 
Yeah those coollcd guys are very good. Really good support. They even refunded me the difference when they lowered the price a couple of days after I ordered mine.
 
I almost went lilliput, got the 5" marshall. Cons are: it's small; the peaking filter is useless with a DSLR (the aliasing makes the monitor think "everything's in focus") and it's $550;

The pros: monochrome and blue-only, so you can get it decently calibrated; 1:1 pixel setting so you can get focus setup; works really well with the HMC150's peaking; and it's a very high quality image.

I opted for something that could be basically calibrated and I'm glad - I've found you just can't push the HMC footage as hard as Canon's DSLR codec, and you can get very close to your desired look by flipping through a scene file's settings while checking the monitor - it's essentially "real time" grading on set, to a great extent.

For the price of two Lilliputs you get a much smaller screen and you'll need some rechargeable AA's or a custom cable for power - but I'm finding I can trust the color on the thing.
 
Michael Carter said:
I almost went lilliput, got the 5" marshall. Cons are: it's small; the peaking filter is useless with a DSLR (the aliasing makes the monitor think "everything's in focus") and it's $550;

The pros: monochrome and blue-only, so you can get it decently calibrated; 1:1 pixel setting so you can get focus setup; works really well with the HMC150's peaking; and it's a very high quality image.

I opted for something that could be basically calibrated and I'm glad - I've found you just can't push the HMC footage as hard as Canon's DSLR codec, and you can get very close to your desired look by flipping through a scene file's settings while checking the monitor - it's essentially "real time" grading on set, to a great extent.

For the price of two Lilliputs you get a much smaller screen and you'll need some rechargeable AA's or a custom cable for power - but I'm finding I can trust the color on the thing.
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michael-

for me, color accuracy on the set is worth the price.

which 5" marshall monitor?

thanks in advance

be well

rob
 
Well it seems my monitor has died that I purchased from Coollcd.com about a year ago. It powers on, but the screen is blank, and I no one of the buttons work. The power button lights yellow, almost like a computer monitor when it receives no signal. Looks like I'll have to pick up another one. Dang it.
 
robfilms said:
which 5" marshall monitor?
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Here's the link for the V-LCD50. I paid $550 or so, I think they can be found for a hair less now.

There's also the smallHD, a bit more $$, more pro features - like, the Marshall uses an AC adapter or 4 AA batteries, I believe the SmallHD has pro battery options, etc. The small wasn't available when I got the Marshall; and you can adapt a v-mount or other batteries to use the DC in of the marshall.

Problem with the Lilliputs and similar - the viewing angles can be good, bad or awful; and you have no idea what you're getting exposure wise. You REALLY REALLY REALLY need to test the hell out of them - I tried a cheap LCD where the straight-on viewing angle was literally 2 stops brighter than exposure - to get a rough idea of exposure, you had to hold it over your head.

I know a cheap LCD is tempting - but the minute you get an accurate one, you'll be amazed at what you can do. There are few pieces of kit I'd buy before one if I was shooting pro work with any sort of tweaks to the lighting. Maybe for run & gun docs & outdoor work it's not as critical (esp. with a WFM in camera). But the minute you start tweaking color temps, matching light, or going for any kind of beautiful or dramatic look - it's really REALLY really (did I say "really" enough?) wonderful to edit without having to re-expose, push footage into grain, and re-color in post to "fix" things.

Best of all, a small pro monitor with HDMI can be hooked up to your NLE with a $200 & up card; yes folks, you can use the little thang to check color while you use your main monitor for details and general work. The minute you invest in a calibrate-able on-set monitor - and use it for editing as well - it's a grand day. You can do this for well under a grand, and it'll seem in hindsight like the moment you went from hobbyist to serious shooter.

I just can't stress it enough... worth every penny, amazing value.

(Still, it would be very cool if camera makers that put bars in their cameras would let you send blue-only bars to your monitor... you can get some screens fairly close with brightness & color controls).
 
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