C200: Let's give Canon a list of items that should be fixed in the next firmware update!

Fahnon said:
You're right of course, but I'd consider the camera resetting the frame rate because I changed codecs to be a major problem. It's only a matter of time before I find myself dealing with a 60fps clip when I meant to record in 23.98 as I do 98% of the time.

Honestly it's the only thing that actually annoys me about the camera at this point.
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That is indeed very annoying and should be changed.

It's how other [older] prosumer fixed-lens cameras behave as well, but this shouldn't be the case for a 2017 $7,500 cinema camera.
 
Stills2HDConvert said:
No thanks on the BM cameras.
Their images can be stunning.
Their reliability is not.
Look at how many of the new BMPC 4k have failed even in reviewers hands.
Some are even suggesting that you buy 2 so that you have a backup.
I've been lucky with my BM cameras but I'm only going to keep one that has a global shutter.
Now that cameras like the C200 are delivering the kind of features that BM did, I'll take the autofocus and reliability of a C200 any day.
puredrifting is the only one who I can recall has reported C200 issues and look at what he puts them through.
How many BM cameras would he have gone through in the same environment?
Canon has few and far between updates, but I'd take a Cannon now over a BM.
And Arri, the gold standard, well they're the gold standard.
No comment on RED.
I work with some people who used to work for RED.
I'll stay mum.
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Yep, agree on all of your points. And yes, the C200 getting covered with ocean spray is probably considered "extreme".
FWIW, since the last round of repairs a few months ago, no problems or issues since then. Overall, I think I got a unit with a bad fan, they replaced it, now all is good.
The screen going dead was due to excess moisture getting into it.
 
Almost three years after puredrifting's original post, Canon has finally addressed at least two of these issues with firmware 1.0.7.1.00:

1. Compatible with EF Cinema Lens CN 10 x 25 IAS S/E1.
- Peripheral illumination / chromatic aberration correction has been added.
- Enable autofocus with Dual Pixel CMOS AF.
- Added support for "Dual Pixel Focus Guide" feature.
2. The ability to update the SDI/HDMI output from 59.94P to 29.97P (or 23.98P) has been added.
3. Simultaneous output of HDMI connector and 3G-SDI connector is supported.
4. Kelvin has been added to the color temperature step setting.
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QuickHitRecord said:
Almost three years after puredrifting's original post, Canon has finally addressed at least two of these issues with firmware 1.0.7.1.00:
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Right, I was pretty happy to see that. That reminds me, need to download it and try that out.
I wish they had fixed all of the other problems on our list but the C200 probably won't be a current
model once the rumored RF models hit so I'd say this might be it as far as FW updates for the C200?
 
puredrifting said:
Definitely better than nothing.
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That is the sentence of 2020. In a way, we have finally a whole bunch of good cameras that meet very basic and good levels of quality. I am for the first time, happy with every camera release this year, and yet, it is odd that this year has seen the most complaints. Or is it just my perspective?
 
James0b57 said:
That is the sentence of 2020. In a way, we have finally a whole bunch of good cameras that meet very basic and good levels of quality. I am for the first time, happy with every camera release this year, and yet, it is odd that this year has seen the most complaints. Or is it just my perspective?
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I thought you were the things could always be improved, dont let the camera companies know we're satisfied guy?

What have people been complaining about other than Canon's massive overheating problem? The c300iii/c500ii/fx9 were all pretty well received. People dinged Komodo for charging extra for early colored versions. People complained about A7SIII color science until they didnt. 12k was too much until it wasnt.
 
I was surprised to see new firmware already. It doesn't seem to add much:

Firmware Version 1.0.8.1.00 incorporates the following fix.

1. Fixes a phenomenon that may result in images not being displayed when a LM-V2 monitor is connected to the camera.
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And apparently this feature, which I don't full understand:

 
I think I wrote about this elsewhere but I might as well put it into this thread too for those researching buying the C200.
Yes, Canon enabled simultaneous output of SDI and HDMI, but true to form, when you try to monitor both at the same time,
you CANNOT turn off screen overlay on the SDI output, whih makes this new "feature" useless for many trying to monitor HDMI while sending SDI to a switcher,
live stream computer, etc. You cannot default the overlay to HDMI, it sticks to the SDI output and cannot be turned off. Such horrible crippling.

Thanks Canon, really useful.
 
Yeah, it was a disappointing choice by Canon. Hasn't bitten me yet though. I've been using the SDI as a monitor connection and the HDMI for wireless transmission (I can toggle readouts on and off on that). But for anyone hoping to do the opposite, you're out of luck.
 
QuickHitRecord said:
Yeah, it was a disappointing choice by Canon. Hasn't bitten me yet though. I've been using the SDI as a monitor connection and the HDMI for wireless transmission (I can toggle readouts on and off on that). But for anyone hoping to do the opposite, you're out of luck.
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All of our vMix systems have the BMD Decklink Quad 2 cards, SDI input only and we are often running distances beyond HDMI's capability. Canon really screwed us over here.
So we can run SDI to our live stream system but have nothing to feed my ATEM Mini Pro that we use for the camera ops to monitor when we have 3-5 cameras stacked so that
the ops can see each others shots and make sure they aren're replicating framing. If you unplug
HDMI output, the overlay on the SDI out magically disappears. Soooooo frustrating Canon. Why would they do that?
 
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