Large Sensor Cameras Survey

I dislike the overuse of shallow depth of field but with one of the possible answers to your first question you have insulted some of your respondents. Not a great idea for a survey. I stopped at that point.

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[TD] I love shallow depth of field and I am lazy (Canon 5D, Canon 1D)[/TD]
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I was just trying to bring some humor instead of making it a cold blooded survey. I use 5Ds a lot and sometimes, it is how I feel. You can make great shots with little efforts....

Take care,

Thierry.
 
Got 33 respondents so far. Some surprising results such as in Question 1 on form factor. A great majority of respondents favor a classic, full size over the shoulder design. I'll publish the final results on the forum in a few days.

Best,

Thierry.
 
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telecam said:
...... A great majority of respondents favor a classic, full size over the shoulder design.....
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I bet most people go with what they know and what they are use to using, over a new form factor that they my have not had as much experience with.
 
If you want actual info I'd suggest redesigning the survey. I found it off putting and quit after two questions.
 
Yak said:
I bet most people go with what they know and what they are use to using, over a new form factor that they my have not had as much experience with.
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I have seen too many people ducking around with theses silly camera rigs. The old reliable is very convenient. Pop off tripod, on shoulder, grab batteries and go. Simple. Sound man better keep up.
 
The survey is dumb but fun!

FF35 - I like it not because Im lazy but the 24-105 is unmatched for range/mass/price

2k for those who want to deliver 1080 but occasionally see the boom - this was missing

S
 
I have to say I'm surprised...and heartened...that the "over the shoulder" camera preference was as large as it was.

If a poll like this were at all representative of the marketplace, you would think that camera makers would sense a decent market opportunity for repackaging these wonderful little boxes into form factor that's a little more easy to use on a daily basis. Apparently they have now painted themselves into a corner on the price/performance aspect of these new cameras and are forced to protect the higher end product...older cameras that now barely outperform their lower end offerings. For someone like me that paid $50K for a Betacam not that many years ago, I'm amused (and astounded) at what people expect...and actually get...for $10K these days. Personally, I'd be more than happy to shell out $25 grand for a camera with F3 performance and plush Varicam/F900 ergonomics. Sony, Panasonic, Ikegami, Canon...they could all do it in a heartbeat...so what are they waiting for? My theory is that the marketplace has changed so quickly, it has thrown entire model lineups and product development into disarray. The next couple years promises to be very interesting...and if I owned an Alexa, I'd be a little nervous once the Japanese sort out their product hierarchy and bring some serious new mid-level hardware into the marketplace.

Thanks for taking the time to do the poll and share it with us. Fun times ahead!
 
On second thought...I'd be happy to pay $35K to have a reliable, high-end scalable recorder built into that camera.
Am I the only one here that's already getting tired of hanging all kinds of crap on my camera and walking around with a rat's nest/erector set on my shoulder?
 
JCummings said:
On second thought...I'd be happy to pay $35K to have a reliable, high-end scalable recorder built into that camera.
Am I the only one here that's already getting tired of hanging all kinds of crap on my camera and walking around with a rat's nest/erector set on my shoulder?
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I love the flexibility a small camera brings - I can rig it to look like Doc Oc, or I can put it in my hands and go simple. But, I don't do hardly any event video or ENG work - the times I have were with an EX-1 and an IDX shoulder brace, which was plenty comfortable, if not a little too lightweight.

I remember Barry posting a few months ago that camera modularity comes in phases - it goes all-in-one shoulder cam, to compact and modular, back to all-in-one, back to compact, and will repeat that cycle. The DSLR's changed things for compact and modular, but something will come along soon (I thought it would be the now vaporized 2/3" Scarlet) that will swing us back to all-in-one ENG style betacam.

It's funny - I actually model my camera rig after ENG cameras - everything from EVF placement, balance, lens placement, second field monitor, etc.
 
Hmmm. Perhaps I overreacted but there is so much "Your AF100 sucks LOL" type stuff on this website that I thought this survey was in the same vain after the first question. Turns out it was just being lighthearted so my apologies for jumping to conclusions.
 
Searcher said:
Hmmm. Perhaps I overreacted but there is so much "Your AF100 sucks LOL" type stuff on this website that I thought this survey was in the same vain after the first question. Turns out it was just being lighthearted so my apologies for jumping to conclusions.
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I thought you were joking anyway. =)
 
While I prefer modularity to the over the shoulder rigs, there is something nice about a setup that doesn't have a million edges and things to tweak and tighten, and get lost, or fall off, and for that, over the shoulder is great.


The issue with the modular little boxes, is that, despite the influx of "genius" rod mount and dangle systems, no one has actually created really intuitive rigs for camera brain setups. Red is about the most complete, but has a ways to go.


Because micro cameras can be reconfigured, their is the tendency to reconfigure, and this can cause a bunch of problems. Everytime the camera op changes his setup, there is time lost, and potential issues.

Notice Peter Jackson used 30 Red Epics, so they wouldn't have to reconfigure rigs. James Cameron apparently is using 50. Spiderman used a bunch too. All to say, that camera manufacturers could sell more cameras if they sold them small and modular, and cheaper. While the small indie filmer or documentarian would only buy one, production companies would buy dozens.
 
JCummings said:
I have to say I'm surprised...and heartened...that the "over the shoulder" camera preference was as large as it was. snip...
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I kind of felt vindicated when I see that. I think there is an excellent sales potential for a full size, of the shoulder, reasonnably priced camera that works straight out of the box. Full electronic control of Nikon/Canon lenses is also a necessity. Adapters work but they still make quick and fine control of SLR lenses iris difficult.

I am glad you enjoyed taking it :)

Thierry.
 
telecam said:
I kind of felt vindicated when I see that. I think there is an excellent sales potential for a full size, of the shoulder, reasonnably priced camera that works straight out of the box. Full electronic control of Nikon/Canon lenses is also a necessity. Adapters work but they still make quick and fine control of SLR lenses iris difficult.

I am glad you enjoyed taking it :)

Thierry.
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Yes, but they want it for less than $10k. Camera companies are loath to undercut sales of their high end cameras with sales of the low price cameras. Its not a good business model. If they offered the FS100 in a full size shoulder mount they couldn't justify not having ND filters, etc.
 
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