Large Hadron Collider

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Saw it on the news the other morning. Heard more about it today and read the following article: http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,420062,00.html

"Someone will spot a light ray coming out of the Indian Ocean during the night and no one will be able to explain it," retired Professor Otto Roessler told London's Mail on Sunday. "Very soon the whole planet will be eaten in a magnificent scenario — if you could watch it from the moon. A Biblical Armageddon. Even cloud and fire will form, as it says in the Bible."
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I don't know about you, but to me this is some scary ****.

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Pretty interesting stuff going on with this thing.

My friend has been giving me daily updates about it for the past 6 months (slight exaggeration). Apparently there is a .0001% chance (something like that) that it will end the universe.
 
Is that guy working on it with like a socket wrench from Sears? And I like the taped on sign with the arrow: "Tighten bolt here."
 
ugafan said:
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OMG! I've been talking to my friends about this for months! This experiment is JUST LIKE the video game Half Life, except it doesn't take place in the South West (Black Mesa)!!!

I just hope the boss alien isn't a fetus again. (only few of you will know what I'm talking about)
 
Drew Ott said:
Apparently there is a .0001% chance (something like that) that it will end the universe.
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That's enough for me to say "Put on the brakes, buddy!" They should obviously coincide this test (if they must do it) with the end of the Mayan calendar. :grin: Just tell me when they are going to switch it on so I can take care of some last minute business. :D

Oh, and, the cake is a lie. (I know, I know, different game. Don't shoot me.)
 
They actually began testing yesterday. Turned it on, and shot protons in one direction only. Soon they will test shooting them in the opposite direction. After some data interpretation and analyses, they will recalculate, recalibrate and then shoot those suckers at near-light-speed in both directions and watch as new data comes in by the nano-second. As for the possibility of a black-hole-swallowing-the-earth thing, that'll only happen once a swiss cockroach meanders into one of the cracks in the 27-mile long underground track, gets goo-ified and hurtled at <300000 km/s, gaining the energy equivalent to the mass of a tyrannosaur sneezing in space, and smashes into some wayward piece of chocolate that a careless, cocoa-loving engineer left behind, creating what exists at the heart of nearly every galaxy we can 'see': a super-massive black hole. Exciting times we live in, huh? :D

Personally, I'm more concerned with accidental creation of anti-matter. That stuff'll knock your socks off.
 
i feel something huge falling over me........oh no is the black hole!!!!!!! and I still don't have my camera!!!!!

hehe......this sucker is huge, have you seen the 3d composite over the actual terrain? it really is daunting.

It also remainds me of the long tube in terminator 3 were the poor terminator gets stuck.......They say films are fiction, but.........


let's ask anhar for an explanation!!!!
 
I have been keeping up on this thing for a while and it's spooky.

This would make a great premise for a scifi flick.

Well if they flip this on and we all DIE its been fun chatting on dvxuser.
 
Hey worst come to worst France blows up.. HAHA... take your millions in bullion out of your Swiss bank accounts cause part of it is under Switzerland! HAhaha...

IMO we would be a mamsy pansy species if we didn't do this. We might create anti-matter and a black hole, but how big? A little anti-matter might make something like a nuclear explosion but with no radioactive fall out... and this thing is a football field underground. The black hole... well I'm not sure we know if it would grow or last any more than a few nanoseconds. I don't think we know crap about them... so what are we going to do? Just sit here and wait to bump into one that happened to be too close and undiscovered? We are talking about a few hundred molecules being accelerated... maybe a few thousand once we messed around with smaller amounts. So long as they start with tiny ammounts and work their way up, which they will, then I am all for it, hands down... I mean how could you not do this?! It is just freaggin' awesome that we can. Kinda like a choo choo train set only several billion dollars more and it might leap frog human sience like a mother f'er.

I think the speed they expect to get these scant amounts of matter to hit is about 10 km/h slower than the speed of light... that is so f'ing cool... I TOTALLY doubted we'd get that close by now! That will/should/could recreate the conditions present in the first nanoseconds after the big-bangs where physics as we know it don't apply... learning about that could fill in the puzzle in a big way. There are other sientists cooling down matter to explore the oposite scenario.

Don't send me the electric bill!
 
This maybe it folks, fireworks are dangerous.

ilauzirika said:
i feel something huge falling over me........oh no is the black hole!!!!!!! and I still don't have my camera!!!!!

hehe......this sucker is huge, have you seen the 3d composite over the actual terrain? it really is daunting.

It also remainds me of the long tube in terminator 3 were the poor terminator gets stuck.......They say films are fiction, but.........


let's ask anhar for an explanation!!!!
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I believe he is busy counting posts again.:)
 
lol :D Everts!

The funny thing is, the media (news) loves a good story, so of course the idea of "we might just destroy the universe" sells more, then the fact, as described by one of scientist working on CERN, (I don't have the quote) but along the lines, that reactions like these are happing ALL the time, we are being bombared by particles from space which are crashing onto earth's surface, the only thing different between that and CERN, is that it is happening inside a controlled lab.

P.S

on a personal note, if anyone is worried, and would like to take out the new "cosmic" insurance, I'll be happy to get you an application form, the deposits can be made in camera's, eg HVX200, REDs, XHL1, VariCam, Panavision D20..
 
That was a pretty poor explanation Anhar, keep it up and we will make you turn in your sliderule and pocket protector! Now, in simple terms, explain to us what is going to happen :)
 
We are being bombarded by particles from the sun on a daily basis that hit our atmosphere at energies greater than that produced by the LHC. The chances of it destroying the earth are as great as someone being killed by a spitball. The problem is that if you ask a scientist 'any' question, they will tell you, yes, there is a statistical chance that could happen, however low, so some reporter looking for a headline screams, "Spitballs can kill you!", when common sense tells us that could never happen.
 
Anhar Miah said:
on a personal note, if anyone is worried, and would like to take out the new "cosmic" insurance, I'll be happy to get you an application form, the deposits can be made in camera's, eg HVX200, REDs, XHL1, VariCam, Panavision D20..
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I have a nikon d80, does it qualify?:dankk2:
 
Also keep in mind, many scientists seriously believed that there was a chance the first atomic bomb would create a non-stop chain reaction that would destroy the planet, and atomic explosions are much less controlled then what is happening in the LHC. Now how many nuclear blasts have their been since then that haven't ended the world? Even if there is a mishap with LHC, it will most likely be localized to a small area.
 
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Well in a nutshell,

they accelerate a bunch of protons (near to the speed of light) and then crash them into each other (using electromagetic forces to guide them and onto the same path)

when these protons smash together, you get a totally particle carnage, bits of sub particles fly every where, this crash is ually designed to happen around one of the six detectors (eg ALICE, ATLAS, CMS etc).

The massive ( I mean really massive) data collected is then analysed, using the GRID computing (lots of comptuers around the world, connected together to share the "work load")

What they are really after is the Higgs Boson also dubbed the "God" particle, this particle is part of the prediction from the standard model, its just previoulsy we didn't have the ability to detect it.

The Higgs is really important, because the Higgs is responsible in giving everything else mass.

The funny thing is initial tests have been done already, and the Higgs was found "kindda", now they are just really confirming it.
 
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Oh yea forgot to mention i read in an article, in the last collider some one tried to saboatge the experiments, they ACTUALLY found beer cans lodged inside the tunnels!! the brand was not disclosed!

this is really bad, because any debris can obstruct the path of the protons...

hope no one decides to mess with this one..
 
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