Just got a new camera - Sony F35

[Adamsenoj]

What is the missinformation?

All the above for example and other things like saying DPX is a digital negative and preferred in the VFX industry. I never knew of a camera that captures to DPX and the VFX industry preferred format these days is OpenEXR because it's much more flexible.

You didn't catch all that, or were you just testing us?

 

[Samuel H]

Over here somebody pointed out that superman wasn't shot on the F35. It was the Genesis. That's a more serious offense, you can hang him for that.

 

[mlysbakken]

Hehe, that somebody was me. Same with Alice in Wonderland, I believe.

Edit: But to be fair, the two cameras have quite similiar aesthetics

 

[Oznimbus]

I'm curious, what would be the most economical way to power the f35?

 

[KyleProhaska]

Just found this thread today. Really amazing stuff coming out of that camera. I had no idea it was out there that cheap. My next film is likely being shot on C300. It's mostly at night, smaller crew (but not 2man crew), etc. C300 should excel in that. For my needs at a lower budget (<$200k), the C300 works. It's great to know though that something like the F35 is out there. For those of us not worried about the next big thing as much, an F35 could be useful for years. I could see it being an option on next film or a film after that. I'm sure they'll still be floating around!

 

[bill totolo]

As far as I know, "Alice in Wonderland" was shot on a Dalsa.
I see IMDB lists the Dalsa, the Genesis and a Panaflex Platinum.

Perhaps Illya from Hot Rod Cameras has some inside info for us?

 

[Sfernald]

They are still popping up on eBay at 8kish. I think that will the price for a while. Would be interesting to see what the true price is for someone brave enough to sell it as a one dollar no reserve auction.

The big thing to me is that this was a 200k camera at one time and it is absolutely loaded with circuit boards and special electronics. If anything goes on it, it might not be reasonable to pay to have it fixed. How long to do you think these things will last? Wild parts/repairs be out of sights?

 

[Illya Friedman]

As far as I know, "Alice in Wonderland" was shot on a Dalsa.
I see IMDB lists the Dalsa, the Genesis and a Panaflex Platinum.

Perhaps Illya from Hot Rod Cameras has some inside info for us?

You've got that right. Alice in Wonderland (2010) was shot about 50% Dalsa Evolution Camera, and 50% Panavision Genesis. I believe there was some high speed work shot on 35mm, but how much I am not certain.

On the Blu-Ray extras is some BTS footage where you can see both cameras working on a crane.

 

[Samuel H]

The big thing to me is that this was a 200k camera at one time and it is absolutely loaded with circuit boards and special electronics. If anything goes on it, it might not be reasonable to pay to have it fixed. How long to do you think these things will last? Wild parts/repairs be out of sights?

It seems built to last, but in any case that's indeed an issue. Mechanical parts may be easier but any electronics repair is probably going to cost an arm and a leg. Treat it with care. No need to emphasize that a lot though, since I guess most of you are already cuddling yours, spoon at night and all...

 

[mlysbakken]

The big thing to me is that this was a 200k camera at one time and it is absolutely loaded with circuit boards and special electronics. If anything goes on it, it might not be reasonable to pay to have it fixed. How long to do you think these things will last? Wild parts/repairs be out of sights?

My F35 got damaged in transit and is at Sony's service centre in Wales for repairs. Their price estimate so far is only around $3000. That's quite a bit less than i feared.

 

[Adamsenoj]

I'm curious, what would be the most economical way to power the f35?

Why would you consider anything other than a V-mount or Anton/Bauer is beyond me. What do you have in mind, using 8x AAs?

 

[Adamsenoj]

The big thing to me is that this was a 200k camera at one time and it is absolutely loaded with circuit boards and special electronics. If anything goes on it, it might not be reasonable to pay to have it fixed. How long to do you think these things will last? Wild parts/repairs be out of sights?

Yes, it will cost an arm and a leg indeed and they are also all out of warranty of course. The risk is definitely high and although they are indeed built to last, you have to keep in mind that these were all rental units. Who's careful with rental gear that is insured and doesn't belong to them? Unless the seller says the camera has just been to Sony for a check up and overhaul, the risk is very real indeed.

 

[Adamsenoj]

My F35 got damaged in transit and is at Sony's service centre in Wales for repairs. Their price estimate so far is only around $3000. That's quite a bit less than i feared.

Considering how much you paid for the whole camera this is a good chunk of change. I hope the insurance will cover it.
I think by what you described your problem also seems to be something very minor, which needs to be kept in mind. Anything half-way major your camera is pretty much bricked, as it would most likely be better to buy a new f5 or even F55 with the repair costs.

 

[Adamsenoj]

Did you ever get to shoot the comparison video?

Yes LeavingTheCandy. Still looking forward to the F3 vs F35 tests.

Is it still happening?

 

[LeavingTheCandy]

Yes. Got derailed with damn clients actually expecting delivery. :embarasse
I think I'll be able to shoot some tomorrow. Don't give up.

 

[Oznimbus]

Why would you consider anything other than a V-mount or Anton/Bauer is beyond me. What do you have in mind, using 8x AAs?

The only thing I had in mind was trying to learn something.

Thanks for the help

 

[mlysbakken]

The only thing I had in mind was trying to learn something.

Thanks for the help

The cheapest way to power the camera is through an AC adapter like the Sony AC-550. Not very practical, though.

 

[Adamsenoj]

The only thing I had in mind was trying to learn something.

And I guess you did.

 

[Sfernald]

The cheapest way to power the camera is through an AC adapter like the Sony AC-550. Not very practical, though.

So if you were looking to pick up a minimal, cheap functioning package, would something like this work?

1. F35 on eBay (8k)
2. Sony ac-550 adapter on eBay (150)
3. PL Cp.2 lens on eBay (around 2k) (dont have any pl lens unfortunately, just canon and nikon)
4. Hyperdeck shuttle 2 (about 450 with ssd new)

Am I missing anything for a minimal configuration to get it up and running (excluding obviously everything else that we would have already)?

Seems not to bad at about $10,600 for the camera used to film Real Steel.

 

[mlysbakken]

So if you were looking to pick up a minimal, cheap functioning package, would something like this work?

1. F35 on eBay (8k)
2. Sony ac-550 adapter on eBay (150)
3. PL Cp.2 lens on eBay (around 2k) (dont have any pl lens unfortunately, just canon and nikon)
4. Hyperdeck shuttle 2 (about 450 with ssd new)

Am I missing anything for a minimal configuration to get it up and running (excluding obviously everything else that we would have already)?

Seems not to bad at about $10,600 for the camera used to film Real Steel.

You'd need a monitor. Either an hdmi monitor connected to your hyperdeck (won't let you monitor with luts) or an hd-sdi monitor connected directly to the camera. You'd also need to get a hold of a 4-pin xlr cable to connect the AC adapter to the camera.
And I guess you'd want some sort of rig, or a tripod that can handle the weight? That doesn't have to be too expensive, though. You can make a shoulder rig like Miguel's for less than $1000 in parts.