Yes, now we need someone to invent an anti-clothes rustle mic.
JuicedLink is going to show off new "Little DARling" Distributed Audio Recorder
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Yes, now we need someone to invent an anti-clothes rustle mic.
Its got audio bracketing for the shrieks. One channel at set level, the other channel 16db lower.
This was just released and may make the clothes rustling easier to deal with:
http://lmcsound.com/products/rubber-mount-sl-for-sanken-cos-11/
Robert please get this out quick, 6-8 hours is fine with me on a single AA
That was a good find. I need those.
thefluentone
Member
I have one question, how difficult would it e to have some type of Time code burn in? I' thinking that sometimes with very isolated sounds that would e potential, it may be hard to sync up some recorders based on audio only, and time code would be helpful. I could really see this producting being useful for the event video work that I do. I've been upset with using my tascam dr40 for task like this. lol so thanks for taking the initiative to provide a product.
Looks like it's not possible in the current design, but any remote trigger capability in the future? I like the idea of laving actors with their own recorder and pulling the audio later, but running around and hitting record on all of them doesn't seem as efficient.
I also may have missed something. Great product.
Robert rocks.
I also may have missed something. Great product.
Robert rocks.
My sony pcm-m10s run for 15 hours on 2 AA's so I just have to start them once and leave them on. Juicedlink iPhone remote start stop with multiple recorder monitoring in the future for sure. Right now with his great audio bracketing what would make it a almost perfect must have item is an indicator light connected to a noise profile for clothes rustling/cable issues. Check the indicator, if light is on you've got unwanted noise on the track. Outside noises you can mostly hear and deal with but clothes or cable issues you are flying blind. I suggested this to Robert and he responded that it was interesting idea but he can't see a clear algorithm that would accomplish it.
rob norton
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I think this would be a great way to use them. If you've already taken care of getting sound from as many speakers as you would normally, you could throw lots of these on anyone you usually wouldn't bother with. I would be happy to rent ten of these and set them and forget them on as many guests at a wedding even if there's only a small chance of getting a great moment.
Also, they're not limited to people - they could be gopro equivalents of a crash cam e.g. easy to mount and not the biggest deal if something goes wrong.
Robert said it won't have timecode (either I read it somewhere, or in an e-mail reply he sent to me). I don't think you could get TC/IN & have it be cheap, but I'm thinking at least, at least, having the time / date when a recording is starting. If you set TOD (time of day) Free Run TC on your camera, then you'll be kinda close to sync in post.
Maybe someone can come up with a software app that adds in timecode as you bring the file into your NLE. (Does this exist already even?)
Good point. At my wedding, I hung a lav running from a MiniDisc recorder from the ceiling to grab closer audio of our friends doing readings (it was a small space). I felt this was a nice addition to the room tone being captured from the lock down mic & then I had two wireless mics going to the main camera (operated by someone I worked with), one mic on myself, one on the pastor.
For weddings at least, I could see putting a number of these at key points where you know people will be speaking from. You probably can't mic a bride, but if you can put a mic where she is standing before walking down the isle, you might get some golden moments of her with her dad / bridesmaids.
Amazing idea, mico. iPhone remote start stop would be killer.
indiawilds
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I had a Tascam DR 100 recorder, which is lying mostly unused, except for recording extra effects. It has a remote. So I am sure juicedLink can always do a remote. I fully agree that it will be a killer. Make the price reasonable and people will buy, not like popcorn, but still a lot.
Keep in mind that you want all these extra features yet someone said they want it to be $59. That is extremely unrealistic. The way it is I could easily see this unit being well over $100. You want remote start/stop, timecode and other stuff? Now you are approaching close to $1000.
PegLeg Media
Well-known member
not at all. the zoom H1 is the exact same thing only with 2 audio recorders built in. I rotate my zoom h1 as a wireless lav, and to set up using the internal mics for webinars and put it on the podium at live events. This recorder could only do the lav portion so there really isnt any reason it shouldnt be cheaper than the zoom h1. The zoom is also many years old and should have been lowered in price by now. The 2 problems he talks about with the zoom have never happened to me and Ive put in over 50 hours with my recorder.
So at a wedding this would be nice for the lavs, but id still need my zoom h1 to set on the podium or by the piano player. i'd say equal quality to the zoom h1 with its trade offs so i would not spend more on this than the zoom.
I'm very interested in this small recorder, as right now I use a SD Mixpre-D in combination with a Zoom H4N ... I'd use the Darling as a normal soundrecorder, but without all the extra plastic stuff of the H4N. Would be perfect, and would buy it in an instant. It's basically a ZFR-200 (http://zaxcom.com/products/zfr-200/ ) but with audio monitoring, and without the zaxnet stuff. I'd love to see this having an external power port though, so I could power it from the same battery (Sony Battery) as my other kit.
What a coincidence, Taapo, I was just looking at the LittleDARling and wondering what happened. Originally it was projected to come out at the end of the summer, so end of August, but here it is October, and nothing on the JL blog. That said, there are some things that are missing for me from this - first and foremost, you are not able to monitor the recording, so you are basically flying blind. What sound person would go to record sound live, without monitoring through headphones? Exactly. Meanwhile, Tascam has come out withe some new recorders that are starting to inch in that direction - though they are big and bulky (compared to what JL will be), and as yet you cannot monitor live, but can control other things like start and stope etc. If the JL one day gains the ability to stream through Wi-Fi so I can monitor the recording, that would be an immediate buy. As is, this is an interesting product, but definitely a transitional piece of technology.
I e-mailed Robert at JuiceLink & he said "The Little DARling is making good progress." and he is pleased with it so far, but wouldn't put down a release date. Though when he has any new information it will be on the blog http://www.juicedlink.com/blogs/news
A little disappointing, but not too surprising. Still I hope the finishing touches are finalized soon.
A little disappointing, but not too surprising. Still I hope the finishing touches are finalized soon.
I keep having shoots where I could use something like this…..
I looked at the zfr2000 but $995???
I hope Robert keeps Little DARling affordable.
Looks like Tascams in the game:
Safety track, also connects to wireless system so you can have backup, locking connector for sennheiser, and 8 hours record time on one AAA battery. Juicedlink should do a comparison test. Looks like around $219 from one site I found but wouldn't say definitively.
I like the time track increment function feature as it would help if you just have it recording non stop and don't want one huge file to scroll through.
The only issue is the mic input gain is a low, medium, high setting as opposed to dial adjustable. This is where the juiced link might be better if theres a dial set for gain.
http://tascam.com/product/dr-10c/
Safety track, also connects to wireless system so you can have backup, locking connector for sennheiser, and 8 hours record time on one AAA battery. Juicedlink should do a comparison test. Looks like around $219 from one site I found but wouldn't say definitively.
I like the time track increment function feature as it would help if you just have it recording non stop and don't want one huge file to scroll through.
The only issue is the mic input gain is a low, medium, high setting as opposed to dial adjustable. This is where the juiced link might be better if theres a dial set for gain.
http://tascam.com/product/dr-10c/
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The longer JL waits to come to market, the less relevant they'll be. Already Tascam is giving JL serious competition with a slew of products, including the new DR-60Dmkii ($200!!!), and frankly I can see whole product lines falling off competitively - the prices on the Tascam are just too good. JL has missed shipping dates ("end of summer"), and that is not good. Robert should remember what Steve Jobs said about that "real artists ship". You can't announce stuff, promise ship dates, and then miss your deadlines and watch competitors eat your lunch. The longer JL waits, the less interested I become in DARling, and the more I look to what the competition has to offer.
Yes I need to get one of those DR-60Dmkii - that looks ideal for what I do. I had a BlackMagic camera for awhile and entertained getting a pre-amp from JL but I sold the BM and went to something else.