If Nikon did a run of cine glass, Sigma style, they could probably instantly have a big following. The only issue is that Canon hasn't bothered making their primes in PL, which might mean that it wouldn't be worth it for Nikon either, but who knows.
Is NAB 2018 cancelled?
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If Nikon did a run of cine glass, Sigma style, they could probably instantly have a big following. The only issue is that Canon hasn't bothered making their primes in PL, which might mean that it wouldn't be worth it for Nikon either, but who knows.
there is Photokina this year (and next year too) for all you guys who want to get your DSLR/mirrorless fix.
stoneinapond
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Except you are. There is far more things that go into video/cinema production outside the camera, be they large or small.
Samuel H
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It's definitely not the convention for me, I know that. >99% of the gear that's showcased at NAB is beyond my budget. But there's also a chance we'll get something like an a7S III or a Pocket II, so, I'll stay tuned.
You may be into something here! I have no hopes on Nikon in terms of cameras, but bringing out a Nikon cinema line could make a lot of sense. Maybe that's the reason for their big booth.
Run&Gun
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I still don't understand why Canon hasn't made their CN-E Primes in PL mount. All of their Cine zooms, except the two compact servo T4.4's, are available in PL. I think they're missing the boat, especially now with more "full frame" true cine cameras coming to market. Netflix's new show, Altered Carbon, used them mixed in with Cooke's on the Alexa 65.
That would be interesting if Nikon did venture into cinema glass. There probably aren't too many people on here, outside of us old dogs, that remember when they made 2/3" B4 ENG lenses.
bgundu
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Matt Gottshalk
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Indeed, we had ours done.
The Nikon ENG lenses were never popular and may not have been as good as the other offerings. If there was money in the game, I think Fuji would expand their list of cinema lenses and I don't see them doing it right now. The two mirrorless zooms are a niche that they thought they could fill, but notice that they didn't make them in M43 mount even though the GH5 is very popular. I'm still hoping that the X mount versions will signal the coming of a real Fuji cinema camera, maybe when the organic sensor is really ready for the market.
...But you can still get them converted to M43 mount by a 3rd party company. (can't remember the name right now, but I belive it's British)
It's an untapped market that Fuji should really develop, how much can the mount cost, or is the lens designed so that it will not fit within the flange focal distance of M43? I know they are all similar with around 1mm of difference between X and M43, but not sure if it would really fit. Would have been short sited to not include M43, which also opens up those JVC LS300 cameras.
While that's true, it's also true that it's such a miniscule part of NAB that Red doesn't even bother with a booth there anymore. Filmmaking is a small part of NAB, even for companies like Panasonic and Sony. Especially Panasonic, I suppose; Panasonic's booth is always huge, and always has only a tiny portion of it dedicated to even the Varicams because there's so much other stuff in Panasonic's product portfolio to showcase.
Anyone think an LS300 update (beyond firmware) is in the works?
They didn't bother with MFT etc because they partnered/knew that other 3rd party companies would very quickly fill that gap for them:
https://www.newsshooter.com/2017/07...r-mft-fz-conversion-fujinon-mk-series-lenses/
Mitch Gross
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But I wasn't talking about that. I was talking about what is shown at NAB, which is the topic of this thread. And I will again state that there is relatively little at NAB that is for the DSLR/mirrorless market. Yes there is some, but you are bound to be disappointed if you come to NAB looking for a lot of stuff only to find that this isn't the place for it.
If you're interested in looking at audio gear, at lighting equipment, at post systems, and other areas, then yes there will be more to see and it could very well be worthwhile. But that's not what I said I clearly stated "If all you care about is DSLRs or little mirrorless cameras." I stand by that and it is not elitist. It is a description of what is present at the show.
Mitch Gross
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That last part may have been true in the past, but the production camera area has expanded and the Panasonic Cinema cameras -- VariCams and EVA1 -- will have a significant percentage of our booth. But yes, we also have a lot devoted to broadcast systems, studio cameras, switchers, PTZ cameras and a bunch of other technologies.
Bern Caughey
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Sony FZ Mount Kit for Fujinon MK
https://www.ducloslenses.com/products/sony-fz-mount-kit-for-fujinon-mk-zooms
BarryLichtner
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I think Nikon could bring out a “Cinema” D850, sort of like Canon did with their EOS 1DC, but for $4K instead of Canon’s $12K. Add another internal video processor, include 10-bit 4K 60p, and maybe a light Nikon raw video codec too. Haha. Bandwidth is not a problem with their XQD interface, and the camera seems stable in the extreme hot/cold tests I’ve seen. Basically offer all the video features that Canon shooters want in their DSLRs, but can’t can’t for less than $10K in the Cinema EOS line.
Couldn’t Sony show the replacement for the F5/55 at NAB this year? That’d be interesting.
Couldn’t Sony show the replacement for the F5/55 at NAB this year? That’d be interesting.
Bassman2003
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Things are pretty quiet leading up to the show. Either the leakers are being kept under control or NAB is going to be a non-event for new cameras. These boards used to be very active in the week leading up to NAB shows. Kind of shows the industry is in decline.
puredrifting
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You'll laugh but IMHO, our industry is slowly headed toward further consolidation with the lower end ceding to Smartphones and the middle end, the bread and butter eventually succumbing to Smartphone-like devices. There will be higher end cameras around for the foreseeable future because of workflows and physical size needed for a crew to man the camera for pulling focus, iris and zoom. But for documentary, wedding, event type work, I can see a lot of the industry moving toward higher end Smartphone-like devices like the RED Phone and others that will come. Why buy a $2,500.00 to $4k "camera" when Smartphones are going to eventually match and probably will surpass the quality at half or less money? DSP and computing power will eventually be able to mimic and then surpass things like DOF, FOV, sound issues with wireless mics, etc. Then the trend will start to move upward where many of us will buy a $2k Smartphone over an $8,000.00 camera. I know it sounds like science fiction, but it's coming and accelerating. I wish I had a crystal ball to see what most of us will be shooting on in 5 years. I have feeling it won't be cameras like the FS7 and C300 MKII. It'll be on something much smaller, lighter and cheaper with much better quality.
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