raneparish
Active member
Has anybody tried using the camera adapter for the iPAD to monitor live video from a 7D or T2i?
Is it possible?
Thanks
rane
Is it possible?
Thanks
rane
iPAD AS MONITOR?
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Stephen Mick
Totally Usable
Not possible.
Yet.
Yet.
How do you know?
Stephen Mick
Totally Usable
Because I have an iPad, and have yet to see someone make it work.
But I'm hoping they do.
But I'm hoping they do.
raneparish
Active member
If it worked, I'd have a legitimate excuse for buying one as I just got the T2i and I need a field monitor.
I thought you meant it is not possible to make an iPad into a monitor.
Stephen Mick
Totally Usable
From what I've heard from friends who would likely know (as in they work for a certain fruit company), it's not possible.
But…when I saw the iDisplay app using the iPad as an extension of the Mac desktop, it made me think that anything might be possible.
So, impossible? Nothing's impossible. But highly unlikely that we'd see it anytime soon, I think.
I do hope I'm wrong.
But…when I saw the iDisplay app using the iPad as an extension of the Mac desktop, it made me think that anything might be possible.
So, impossible? Nothing's impossible. But highly unlikely that we'd see it anytime soon, I think.
I do hope I'm wrong.
Hawk Teflon
Veteran
Even though it might not be possible ... curently, it just seems like we're just an app away from it. I mean, the ports are all there, so all it would need is a software update, right? Then again, I don't understand how programs work. Just that they DO work.
This would also justify a purchase for me as well. Come onnnnn Apple!
This would also justify a purchase for me as well. Come onnnnn Apple!
It's probably not possible, nor can I imagine it being possible soon.
iDisplay works by running a program on your Mac. The program fools your Mac into thinking there's a second display hooked up, and then the program dumps that data to the iPad -- over WiFi.
The camera adaptor isn't really the same as adding a USB port to the iPad. It supports only a certain few limited USB devices. In addition to cameras, people have successfully used USB headsets (a'la Skype) as well as USB keyboards.
There is hope, however. Since iPhone OS 3.0, developers have been able to pass whatever data they want through the dock. What it would take is somebody enterprising enough to design a USB-Dock connector, and software to support it. I'm not sure if a developer outside of, say, Canon would be able to coax the camera to send video through USB, and I'm not sure if the iPad can even handle that high speed of data through it's dock.
iDisplay works by running a program on your Mac. The program fools your Mac into thinking there's a second display hooked up, and then the program dumps that data to the iPad -- over WiFi.
The camera adaptor isn't really the same as adding a USB port to the iPad. It supports only a certain few limited USB devices. In addition to cameras, people have successfully used USB headsets (a'la Skype) as well as USB keyboards.
There is hope, however. Since iPhone OS 3.0, developers have been able to pass whatever data they want through the dock. What it would take is somebody enterprising enough to design a USB-Dock connector, and software to support it. I'm not sure if a developer outside of, say, Canon would be able to coax the camera to send video through USB, and I'm not sure if the iPad can even handle that high speed of data through it's dock.
ipad 1.0 can't do it, but, there is a new phone coming out this summer on the Sprint network, the HTC EVO 4G with 800x480 resolution on a 4.3" screen and hdmi input.
not exactly a large monitor, but i could see the convenience factor being very high.
and if anyone develops some waveform and histogram apps for it.....
this could work well for dslrs too, being small enough to mount to the camera as an adjustable lcd monitor.
not exactly a large monitor, but i could see the convenience factor being very high.
and if anyone develops some waveform and histogram apps for it.....
this could work well for dslrs too, being small enough to mount to the camera as an adjustable lcd monitor.
ryansheffer
Well-known member
Someone will make this happen over wifi. Soon.
RED has announced they are doing it themselves.
RED has announced they are doing it themselves.
The Stevesy
Active member
I'm pretty sure that's just an HDMI output on the EVO, not input.
Chris Adler
Veteran
You just need a small portable PC with a BlackMagic Intensity card in it. There are several Mini-ITX motherboards with PCIe-1x slots. Run the rig off abig heavy UPS backup or just use an extension cord.
Capture the HDMI and stream it over WIFI using VLC with a codec that's IPad friendly. That way you could have anyone on-set carry around their own monitors.
Capture the HDMI and stream it over WIFI using VLC with a codec that's IPad friendly. That way you could have anyone on-set carry around their own monitors.
raneparish
Active member
I live in hope!
What inputs does an iPad have which would allow for this?
I'm not a big tech guy but it would probably have to be a small adapter like they have for the SD card input, right now you can input video through the SD card. Some form of conversion might have to take place in an external adapter though.
well, you need output from camera into third party device, that will convert on the fly and also send the stream wifi, at best of what the ipad can do, you might get decent quality, maybe sd or a bit higher resolution at best, it's a compromise all over.
it won't be cheap, it's not like an hd field monitor that can do stuff live, like histograms and false color.
not mentioning something that will do hd-sdi, or hdmi to wifi will cost a lot. so it won't be a ghetto solution.
the best the ipad can actually do is 720p h.264, and it's probably medium profile at best.
it won't be cheap, it's not like an hd field monitor that can do stuff live, like histograms and false color.
not mentioning something that will do hd-sdi, or hdmi to wifi will cost a lot. so it won't be a ghetto solution.
the best the ipad can actually do is 720p h.264, and it's probably medium profile at best.
FREUDENBERG_FILMS
Well-known member
I have hope in apples iPad as a field monitor. It can stream video out via an AV adapter called the Apple Composite AV
If it can send video out........ All it would need is to have a software based program to allow it to go in....... Maybe someone needs to email Apple. It may give them some ideas ;0)
If it can send video out........ All it would need is to have a software based program to allow it to go in....... Maybe someone needs to email Apple. It may give them some ideas ;0)
composite is sd, and video out is less intensive than stream in.
you still would need the component to connect to the camera or a device that will stream over wifi, it's not cost effective, why would someone make that device and make the app for the ipad, for like 20 app buyers that won't pay that much for the app nor the device that will stream.
if the canons can send low bitrate, compatible h.264 over wifi, that will still cost a lot for the adapter thing, and won't be hd monitoring. that would be an app only solution considering you will pay for the adapter which costs too much. and still the app would only sell for 20 or less people.
you still would need the component to connect to the camera or a device that will stream over wifi, it's not cost effective, why would someone make that device and make the app for the ipad, for like 20 app buyers that won't pay that much for the app nor the device that will stream.
if the canons can send low bitrate, compatible h.264 over wifi, that will still cost a lot for the adapter thing, and won't be hd monitoring. that would be an app only solution considering you will pay for the adapter which costs too much. and still the app would only sell for 20 or less people.