Inspired Madness or just plain madness?

Homersapien

Homersapien

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I just sent off my reservation for Red One... which of course isn't madness.

What is madness however is my lack of knowledge of actual film making (I understand the process lol). It is something that I have longed to do all my life and until now (being older and actually possessing money) it was never something in my grasp.

I came to dvxuser because I wanted to get into film making and I liked the type of footage I was seeing from those using the dvx or hvx along with 32mm adapters. Initially I had anticipated spending around £5000 for a HVX and then buy or make a 32mm adapter and get a decent array of lenses in order to start me on my way.

The more I read about Red One the more it appealed to me as I'm sure it does to many of the pro's and enthusiasts alike. I came to realise that if I bought this instead of a HVX that it would likely cost me more than double the ammount, but in terms of value for money I believe the scalability of the camera allows for longevity and if all else fails a means to recoup my money through rental or resale.

I personally feel that Red One is perhaps a bit much for a beginner but whatever else I look at I always seem to come back to this and so in the end I thought I'd take the plunge.

My question to the community is do you think it's Inspired Madness or just plain madness and in my position which way would you choose to go?
 
congradulations on taking a big plunge ...

IMO in the meantime pick up a inexpensive camera and practice -practice -practice ... then you'll be somewhat ready for the RED when it arrives ... try to find somebody in your area that may be working on a project that might need a helping hand here or there ..

as you know thru any learning experience there will be ups & downs - hang in there and be sure to post questions here ...
 
Total Insanity.

How would you and your madness like to come and make a movie next year?

:Drogar-Dolar(DBG):
 
Stephen W said:
Total Insanity.

How would you and your madness like to come and make a movie next year?

:Drogar-Dolar(DBG):
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Would be mad not too :cheesy: (or is it wouldn't be?).
 
Saying Red One is a bit much for a beginner is like saying a PC-9/A was a bit much for me to do my first solo in - just ignore the naysayers and believe in yourself! :)

Over the years I've come to the conclusion that talent is one thing, but sheer determination to succeed and an unwavering belief that you can achieve anything if you put your mind to it, are what really count. Yes, Red One is expensive (all things being relative to your pay packet of course!) but I've always thought that if you are going to buy a tool of any sort, better to buy the best from day one, as you invariably end up spending the cost and more if you start with sub-par equipment and then have to update all the time down the line to get where you could have gotten much earlier, if only you'd realised to buy the best and not tried to scrimp features wise to save a dollar.

So now that you have made a commitment to yourself by putting your money where your mouth is (the reservation), go to work and learn all about the art of story telling, BEFORE you learn about film making from a technical standpoint. Watch a load of movies and critically assess why you find them good or bad. Note it from a story perspective first, then examine it for technical reasons. Why did they choose that particular angle etc? Dissect the movie ten ways, looking at what made it say to you, "I'm a GOOD movie". I find doing that over hundreds of movies has given me a sense of the films I love and the techniques for making them. Oh and use the best damn schooling you'll ever get on film making these days - DVD extras, making of documentaries etc. Listen to commentary tracks.

When you get the camera up and running, try to emulate your favourite movie. Yes, if necessary copy the story, shots etc, but try to inject your own uniqueness to it. Sounds odd, but in copying a known good you quickly realise WHY they made choices and how your own alterations either made it better or worse. Nothing teaches like failure :) But that's a GOOD thing. You will learn from your mistakes and then, if you go on to make many movies, realise what so many directors realise, and that is that you will forever try to "remake" your own films because you are never, ever satisfied until you achieve the perfect film :) And in that lies the true genius of film directors I think - the obsession for perfection while remaining true to your vision. Go ever forward, even though you may feel like you are going nowhere.

Will yourself to succeed, and invariably, you will :)
 
Homersapien said:
I personally feel that Red One is perhaps a bit much for a beginner but whatever else I look at I always seem to come back to this and so in the end QUOTE]

congratulation my friend i hope it all goes well for you so good luck with what you wanna acheive. On that beginnner camera thing i dont think any one on this board would agree with that well if you ask my opinion its the HOLY GRAIL & a revolution camera that would challenge the high end cameras of the market.

In my veiw its not for beginners.... think of it what & why would a beginner want to shoot 4k??? & to be honest with you HVX 200 aintt no beginner's camera either nor do i think that Canon XLH1 is... Sony FX1 yeah may be.... better way to put it would be... Red One is the beginner... the beginner in terms of bringing high end features to the masses/ average joe.
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RED for me is going to be like starting to ski using longer ski's than you should. It takes a bit longer to get going, but once you learn how to turn the bigger ski's you'll be doing better than you would have working your way up from smaller skis. The snow's the same either way.

Also, if you've got the money and the desire to work and learn, then who gets hurt in the whole deal. Enjoy.
 
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