HVX200 - what a bloody rip off!!

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Steve55

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Am I the only person on the planet who thinks the HVX200 sucks big time?

Personally I regret buying a HVX200. I have not even used it yet and I'm considering putting the darn thing on eBay, why?

Because Panasonic are ripping us off. I feel like sticking with Sony and JVC.

If anyone thinks they can simply buy a HVX200 for £4,150 and go on a shoot; forget it! you will have to buy 2 x 8 gig P2 cards and either a laptop or a Firestore FS200, which adds about another £3,700 to the bill totalling £7,850. Yup, this is how much you need to spend to get your HVX200 working; crumbs, the price of two 8 gig cards and a laptop cost more than a Sony Z1.

And before everyone starts shouting about DVCProHD quality, I don't think so, why? I have one word that will sum it up for you "THE LENS". That's right, the lens is pants when compaired to high end broadcast DVCProHD cameras, which cost 5 times the price. A decent HD lens from Canon cost £18,000 for crying out loud. So the HVX200 is not going to give you anywhere near the quality of a DVCProHD professional shoulder mount Panasonic model costing £25,000; far from it.

What's more, I suspect P2 is dead-in-the-water as the PCMCIA slot is just about rendered obsolete by the computer industry; it's all firewire and usb these days. Also, the guy who invented the P2 system has just gone bust and so has his company. Apple's new Macbook does not support P2 cards directly, so Panasonic are the only company in the world who support P2; for how long I wonder?

Oh, did I mention the over-inflated price of the P2-Store, rip off, or the glorified P2 card reader, rip off again, whoever heard of a card reader costing £1,000; ha!

So I'm starting to believe the HVX is a big rip off in every way.

If anyone were to ask me if they should buy a HVX200 I would say "no way!" wait a year until Sony announce the Z2 at NAB 2007, it will be ten times better and the solid state memory chips it uses will be 20 times cheaper. And it will be future proof; unlike this big bloody P2 cards.

Now I don't want to upset all you HVX200 users, remember, I just bought one of the things, I just haven't used it yet because I can't afford to. But please, somebody tell me I'm wrong here, personally I don't think so and I doubt there is anyone on here who could disagree with me.

It is like buying a new car with no engine or wheels, or am I missing something.
 
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I'm sorry but did you not know about P2 cards and FS100s? Did you just buy this camera blind and never bothered to check about the expenses of shooting? That's pretty damn dumb. It's like buying a car and then complaining that you have to fill it with gas. The expense of tapeless storage was never any secret and if you can't afford it (which is very understandible) then why exactly did you buy the camera. For that matter, why exactly are you complaining about a lense on a camera you have never used? And why do you say it's a good thing that a Canon Lense cost 18,000 but whine that a firestore costs 3,700?

Come to think of it, is this a joke thread?
 
I remember one time I bought a dog, and then I got pissed off that I had to feed it, give it water and food, take it outside, get shots, go to the vet, get it a bed, a leash, wash it, play with it, care for it...man, if I would have known that a dog required all these extra costs then I would have bought a stuffed animal or a picture for cying out loud.

:huh:
 
Steve,

No offense, but did you buy the HVX on a whim? Was it a dare? Seriously, didn't you research any of this before the purchase? It's not like Panasonic was hiding the fact that the HVX uses a P2 Card.

I love my HVX and the P2 system, but it sounds like you should sell yours and move on. The good news is the camera is so popular and yours is unused so you should be able to get most of your money back.

Chris
 
You can shoot with the HVX200 with a firewire cable and FCP on either a G4 or MBP.

You don't need anything else.

I've heard of the Firestore going for $1600.

These are things that I've been reading about for seven months.

Do your research, and usually there won't be surprises.

It's a nice cam. It isn't inexpensive, but its DVCProHD, and it's made money out of the box for a bunch of people.

Sorry. What do you want to sell it for?

I'm interested.
 
Value and Needs

Value and Needs

I am buying the HVX for two reasons:

1.) It's a true 16x9 upgrade to the DVX-100B, and I plan to shoot DV with full resolution and edit in 601 uncompressed beauty. Very solid for DVD delivery.
The HVX is an awesome DV camera if you look at it that way, the best in it's class for gamma, resolution, color, and control.

2.) Upgrade path. I already own a laptop so shooting to it is fine. Hardrives will come down in price, P2 will come down in price. The HD is a nice option to have built in to rock solid DV camera.

Just my thoughts.:kali:
 
Is this a major newsbreak ? P2 ? What's that ?

Return it and stop Trolling our friendly waters please.

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I'll leave this open so everyone can make fun of you.
 
oneinfiniteloop said:
I remember one time I bought a dog, and then I got pissed off that I had to feed it, give it water and food, take it outside, get shots, go to the vet, get it a bed, a leash, wash it, play with it, care for it...man, if I would have known that a dog required all these extra costs then I would have bought a stuffed animal or a picture for cying out loud.

:huh:

OMG that's hilarious !
I couldn't have said it better
 
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Perhaps? :lipsrseal



- Mikko
 
Tax-deductible donations of unloved and unwanted HVX's gratefully accepted. Please note that I operate a no-kill equipment shelter so each donated HVX will be cared for and pampered for its entire natural life. I have not even thrown out the Syquest drives I found in the closet two weeks ago. Now, there's the rub with the HVX-- you can't capture directly from P2 to Syquest. Or, is anyone here even old enough to remember Syquest?

Ned Soltz
P.S. Can't take oneinfiniteloop's dog since wife and cats have little use for the species. But I'll take his HVX.
 
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