HVX200? Pah! I want one of these! (RED HD CAMERA)

I REALLY wish red.com was a new company that is taking the dvx + reel-stream + 35mm adapter to the next level, seems that people are not willing to step up and make this happen...it's a shame really....as the 4:4:4 output from the dvx is soooo good...but still no "cine" feel as it's flat as a pancake with the 1/3inch chips.....
 
One of the best things I can see about this camera is the full frame 4k sensor size. No need for adaptors for 35mm DOF.
 
Why "Mysterium"?

Why "Mysterium"?

spieden said:
I, too, know about the company and am under NDA. I think that the skeptics will be surprised to find out who is behind this project- in a good way. It seems to me that there are a ton of hurdles that they need to get past to make this work, but the company and people have successfully jumped over some big hurdles in the past. My impression (and I got permission to say) is that the price will be as big a surprise as the specs. They are not doing this project to sell 10 cameras or get them only in rental houses. The amount of planning and thinking going into this is astounding. This is not a typical "garage start up situation". This will be a fun one to watch.
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Why the silly "Mysterium" name and goofy overly hyped web design? It makes them look more scam-hype than reality, much like the infamous Go-L (their site is actually much calmer than it use be a few years back) which for years promises crazy stuff that you can't actually buy and/or turns out to be just off-the-shelf parts with stratospheric marketing claims.

Under-promise and over deliver tends to deliver better results in my book.
 
Ok, so who the hell it can be? I think that one man can really try to do this:


:evil: ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- :evil:



........................................ Mr. GEORGE LUCAS !



:grin: ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- :grin:


start bet
:laugh: :beer:

p.s. maybe with a little help of some russian money - red :grin:

comes with sticker LUCAS INSIDE
 
Maybe there should be a new RED camera thread since it is so disconnected from the HVX 200. This assumes that the project is real, which it sounds like it is... just a thought.
 
The domain red.com is worth a small fortune. My guess is around $250,000 -$500,000 alone, with no traffic. Its a top notch domain and extremely valuable real estate. Companies would do battle to capture such a name to sell their wares. You don't put up hoax sites on something that is worth a bundle of cash without it being real. You sell it and buy a yacht, and sail off into the sunset to Barbados.

If these pages were on geocities.com then I would think it a spoof. So I believe there is big money behind this, even if the website has been cobbled together in 5 minutes.
 
I don't think anyone thinks the perfect camera has been offered to us yet, so why not keep hope alive that this camera will be a step closer to that ideal? Maybe it will sell for $10K. Who knows. But I, for one, like the idea that someone is out there pushing the envelope to deliver a product that is better than the Japanese Big Three are offering us. Each of us secretly hopes for better. Red is keeping my hopes alive. I will buy a Panasonic HVX 200. But I still wish for more. I hope these guys are the ones to make it.
 
The domain is really exclusive but I won't believe it until I see some 2540p 60fps footage.
Its like "Hey, I got a solar powered sportscar with 600 hp. It can swim and has space for 10 people. It will cost 10.000$, but I won't show you! Stay tuned!"
 
hm,
my first bed also was obin (btw what happened to the DIY camera build using Altasens(?) chips over on dvinfo.net..?), but since he´s also making guesses....
I think the domain issue red.com really is the only hint that this ain´t no hoax (besides all the NDA post from trusted dvxusers), but real sh*t.
When I saw this posted on another forum, I thought red.com? should have surfed by there earlier...(as stated: top level domain...)
And last, the andromeda guys are also under the NDA, well, somewhere on their site i read they won´t mod high end HD cams, cause a dvx simply is cheaper to experiment with - true but all that testing and experimenting that went into the more important part of their package, the recording software sculptorHD, surely is valuable for someone having to handle bitrates like the redcam is going to produce...
What I don´t understand is the hype over this cam on a forum mostly used by "prosumers" or indy filmmakers, guys if you`ll ever DP a movie shot with this RED cam, you´ll be discussing your shots with Lucas, Spielberg or Jackson, I´m for sure...
I´m waiting for 3 things atm: the HVX, the GV Infinity and hopefully a XL2 mod by the andromeda guys...
But hey, the RED is just one more dream to dream and dreaming makes me move...
 
Even if this camera were real, you wouldn't have any monitors to watch UHD-2540P on. HDTV is only in a small percentage of homes, and most of that is only 720 lines.

But on the other hand, this camera would be great as a 35mm film replacement. The quality is pretty much the same, and you can use the same lenses. I'm sure the projectors would cost a bundle, but movie theaters would get it because it will save money in the long run. It's everything George Lucas wished for, so I wouldn't be surprised if he's behind it.
 
Let's put on our red.com wishfulthinking helmets for a moment and play WHAT IF...

What if: They produce this camera and it costs $25k for the body, $15k-100k for lenses, and the storage system is $15k.
What if: they make a prosumer version for $15k (static lens, HDD storage)
What if: This is just hype?
What if: Paul G. Allen is behind this with design from USA, production in Asia (hence the red.com website, red being "lucky" in Asia)?
What if: It costs $850K for the entire system.
 
2540p is overkill for TV, but downsample that to HD rez and the picture will be amazing, and low noise, silky smooth too.... Yum, lovely.

Graeme
 
In going with the red.com specs, here are some additional ones I'd like to see included:

Cost: $0
Warranty: Lifetime no quibble guarantee...parts and labor.
Storage system: 98 minutes on a credit card sized storage device that costs $87.55 for three.
Still Photos: Emulates a 10 M pixel slr camera
MAKES ME LOOK THINNER!
 
I just want to correct something Spartacus said just for the record. Us Andromeda guys (Reel Stream :) ) are not under NDA with the red.com people. We do not want to divulge any details out of courtesy.

Cheers,
Juan
 
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