HVX for me?

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Kugar13

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Hey guys,

I'm an indie filmmaker who has a DVX100a. I am very happy with my 100a, but was wondering if I should upgrade to the HVX.

Would anyone point me in the direction of any articles discussing the pros and cons of going from a dvx100a to a hvx200?

Thanks!
 
It is pretty much a win win. If you need to shoot DV just get an HVX, if you don't get an HPX170. That has no tape drive. You also could get an HMC170 for roughly 3 grand or so. There are plenty of threads covering all 3 and how they compare. start there first. I am searching High an low trying to find a used HVX200 or 200a for a good price. The HPX is the one I want I just can't shell out 5 grand right now.
 
Just try it once and you will never go back. My DVX is sitting on the shelf all dusty and I'm about to sell it since I will never use it again. You get the same exact things the DVX has with the addition of HD and P2 and color space etc...
 
thanks

thanks

Thanks for the advice guys!

If I do get a HVX will I need any additional accessories?

What about the drives (discs)? I hear they are expensive. Do I need any special equipment for the drives, etc?

Any good articles around that could help educate me on the HVX?

Thanks!
 
Beat Takeshi said:
Just try it once and you will never go back. My DVX is sitting on the shelf all dusty and I'm about to sell it since I will never use it again. You get the same exact things the DVX has with the addition of HD and P2 and color space etc...
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I couldn't put it any better.

Your avatar is AWESOME!

Great stuff.

Andrew Hoffman
 
Kugar13 said:
Thanks for the advice guys!

If I do get a HVX will I need any additional accessories?

What about the drives (discs)? I hear they are expensive. Do I need any special equipment for the drives, etc?

Any good articles around that could help educate me on the HVX?

Thanks!
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I can send you some things on the HVX200. Where are you located? Can you PM me your mailing address?

Sorry about all of the questions but what drives are you referring to? The FS-100?

Andrew Hoffman
 
You will absolutely love the HVX. If you can afford the difference and the storage, then go for it. I'd suggest looking at the HPX170 though, unless you need the tape drive.
 
the storage medium options for shooting HD with the hvx/hpx lines is either:

1. P2
2. firestore
3. shoot directly to a computer.

p2 is the solid state media (no moving parts) they come in 8, 16, 32 and soon 64 gig sizes and range from a couple hundred to nearly two thousand dollars each - the camera can hold two cards. there is a lot of argument over whether that cost is justified based on their comparatively small storage capacities (when compared to traditional tape). my personal experience is that the cost is more than justified by the HUGE amount of time i save in not having to log and capture in real time like you have to with tape. the downside again, is the comparatively small storage capacity of P2 cards. and what it boils down to is if you shoot weddings or anything requiring prolonged takes, either use a firestore (see below), shoot SD to tape or just use a different camera.

a firestore is an actual hard drive. it holds WAY more than ANY p2 card (well over 100 gigs) and it costs about $1400 or so. sounds great right?!?! - hang on, the downside to the firestore is - some people have had them fail. the 4pin firewire connection is pretty shakey and can very easilly come loose. and since its a hard drive with moving parts there are slight noise and drive failure worries. i personally have owned two of them and neither of them ever gave me an ounce of trouble. - but maybe i just have good karma ; ) and there is NOW the issue that the company that makes the firestore - focus enhancements, has filed for chapter 11 - so support will be virtually nonexistant. i think these are an absolute must for wedding/event shooters

as far as shooting to a computer. this is an option but only for certain scenarios where you are either in studio or you can have somebody following behind you tethered by a firewire cable. - dont laugh, people do indeed do that.

you need to also consider which camera to get. the hvx200 will be cheapest because its been replaced by the hvx200A (which is significantly better in low light than the 200). AND now there is the hpx170 which is basically the 200A without a tape drive and thus a 5x longer warranty (thanks to haveing NO moving parts). really from what i gather the only reason to get a 200A instead of a 170 is if you expect to have a NEED to shoot SD to tape.

for what its worth, the day i got my HVX200, dvcproHD demo disc in the mail and saw what a joy it was to work with, i sold ALL my SD gear that day and havent looked back.
 
Thanks guys!

Thanks guys!

Woah,

I got an email this morning indicating I've received a reply to this thread to discover 4 replies. Thanks for the feedback and such! The help is very much appreciated!!!!!
 
I'm not sure what they are called, but it's the drives/discs that the data is stored on. Similar to a memory stick/hard drive. I need to do some research on them. Thx
 
Thx

Thx

DM_rider said:
You will absolutely love the HVX. If you can afford the difference and the storage, then go for it. I'd suggest looking at the HPX170 though, unless you need the tape drive.
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I'll look into the HPX170 as well. I'm not familiar with it at all. I'll do my research. Thanks!
 
WoW!

WoW!

WOW! Thanks for taking the time to sort it out for me! Very informative! I am grateful for you taking the time to break it down. Thanks!!!!

wgzn said:
the storage medium options for shooting HD with the hvx/hpx lines is either:

1. P2
2. firestore
3. shoot directly to a computer.

p2 is the solid state media (no moving parts) they come in 8, 16, 32 and soon 64 gig sizes and range from a couple hundred to nearly two thousand dollars each - the camera can hold two cards. there is a lot of argument over whether that cost is justified based on their comparatively small storage capacities (when compared to traditional tape). my personal experience is that the cost is more than justified by the HUGE amount of time i save in not having to log and capture in real time like you have to with tape. the downside again, is the comparatively small storage capacity of P2 cards. and what it boils down to is if you shoot weddings or anything requiring prolonged takes, either use a firestore (see below), shoot SD to tape or just use a different camera.

a firestore is an actual hard drive. it holds WAY more than ANY p2 card (well over 100 gigs) and it costs about $1400 or so. sounds great right?!?! - hang on, the downside to the firestore is - some people have had them fail. the 4pin firewire connection is pretty shakey and can very easilly come loose. and since its a hard drive with moving parts there are slight noise and drive failure worries. i personally have owned two of them and neither of them ever gave me an ounce of trouble. - but maybe i just have good karma ; ) and there is NOW the issue that the company that makes the firestore - focus enhancements, has filed for chapter 11 - so support will be virtually nonexistant. i think these are an absolute must for wedding/event shooters

as far as shooting to a computer. this is an option but only for certain scenarios where you are either in studio or you can have somebody following behind you tethered by a firewire cable. - dont laugh, people do indeed do that.

you need to also consider which camera to get. the hvx200 will be cheapest because its been replaced by the hvx200A (which is significantly better in low light than the 200). AND now there is the hpx170 which is basically the 200A without a tape drive and thus a 5x longer warranty (thanks to haveing NO moving parts). really from what i gather the only reason to get a 200A instead of a 170 is if you expect to have a NEED to shoot SD to tape.

for what its worth, the day i got my HVX200, dvcproHD demo disc in the mail and saw what a joy it was to work with, i sold ALL my SD gear that day and havent looked back.
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{for what its worth, the day i got my HVX200, dvcproHD demo disc in the mail and saw what a joy it was to work with, i sold ALL my SD gear that day and havent looked back.}

Where can I get a demo disc? Thanks!!!!
 
batteries

batteries

Will the batteries for the dvx100a work on a hpx170 or hvx200?

So, the big difference between the hpx170 and hvx200 is the fact that the hpx170 doesn't shoot HD and tape?

Thanks guys! I appreciate the help!!!!
 
The HPX170 doesn't have a SD tape mechanism.

Others:

SDI output
Better low light
Better S/N
Locking 6 pin FW port
Lighter
Smaller
Improved LCD
And a bunch of other things

There is are posts here detailing all this and some reviews over at the Articles section
 
kewl

kewl

David S. said:
The HPX170 doesn't have a SD tape mechanism.

Others:

SDI output
Better low light
Better S/N
Locking 6 pin FW port
Lighter
Smaller
Improved LCD
And a bunch of other things

There is are posts here detailing all this and some reviews over at the Articles section
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Awesome! I'll check out the article section. Thanks!!!
 
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