Hvx-200 Faq

proximity said:
25P ain't the same - at all.
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Sure it is. There probably isn't a soul alive who could tell the difference between 25p and 24p.

PAL TV runs at 50 fields per second. High-def in PAL territories will run at either 50 fields or 25 progressive frames per second. 25p is the right choice for PAL territories. 24p would produce an image that you couldn't display on any television out there.

I don't get this. What are we europeans suppose to do when we want to shoot film. A movie that looks like film ?
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Well, you do the same thing as every other PAL shooter out there does -- you shoot 25p and get the look of film. That's how it's done. Even when shooting film for a direct-to-TV movie, European shooters shoot the film at 25 frames per second for an easy transfer to PAL television.
 
mmm said:
Barry and Jarred,

What did you think of the camera?
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I think they could appropriate Sony's slogan: it's "Like No Other". There ain't nothing else like it. It's incredible. I don't know if we'd be able to distribute the basketball footage, but it's just the best-looking thing I think I've ever seen from a live event -- the colors and detail are just fantastic. The dramatic stuff looks so darn good. And the variable frame rates -- you just can't do that on anything else. It just rocks. Like I said in the other thread, I'm ready to ditch Vegas just to be able to use this camera. I'm giving Sony Vegas 22 days to get their act in gear and announce a DVCPRO-HD native .MXF editing solution, because if they don't I'm going to go to either Canopus or Apple (yes, I did say Apple... I can't believe I'm saying that... but yes, the HVX is worth it!)

I mean, if you're a DVX fan, it's basically a high-def DVX with all sorts of added features too. It's everything the DVX is, plus a whole lot more... it's ... well, yeah.

Yeah.
 
Barry_Green said:
...because if they don't I'm going to go to either Canopus or Apple (yes, I did say Apple... I can't believe I'm saying that... but yes, the HVX is worth it!)
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Come with us Barry... you know you've been looking for an excuse for a long time now...:evil:

You buy FCP 5, I'll buy some P2 cards and we can eat our hats together.
 
Barry_Green said:
Sure it is. There probably isn't a soul alive who could tell the difference between 25p and 24p.

PAL TV runs at 50 fields per second. High-def in PAL territories will run at either 50 fields or 25 progressive frames per second. 25p is the right choice for PAL territories. 24p would produce an image that you couldn't display on any television out there.


Well, you do the same thing as every other PAL shooter out there does -- you shoot 25p and get the look of film. That's how it's done. Even when shooting film for a direct-to-TV movie, European shooters shoot the film at 25 frames per second for an easy transfer to PAL television.
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Really?

I'm just thinking, since film is a analog 24P format, There should be a noticable diffrence between 24P and 25P, but since you but it this way, I guess that since the footage is progressive, the "film-feeling" will still be there. I wish I could check this out, like a comperison shot.

But, again. Thanks Barry.

-prox
 
Barry_Green said:
Sure it is. There probably isn't a soul alive who could tell the difference between 25p and 24p.
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I'm not so sure...:laugh: but thx anyway for your PAL concern. We are waiting for your HVXbook and your comparative tests. [You are also our PAL HVX guru]
 
Barry_Green said:
I don't know if we'd be able to distribute the basketball footage, but it's just the best-looking thing I think I've ever seen from a live event -- the colors and detail are just fantastic.
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Pleease try it! We need it. As well the desert footage. EXT. footage will be UNQUESTIONABLE important for all indie filmmakers community here @dvxuser.com.

Jarred?
 
ProjX v2.0 said:
Barry, is there a reason you're not even contemplating moving to Avid Xpress Pro HD?
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Well... I dunno. I saw a demo of it, and I just think that Apple had their number. There were some things that Avid actually did better, such as being able to directly edit the MXF files. Apple currently can't, you have to "ingest" them and convert them to Quicktimes. That's the only real glaring fly in the ointment, near as I could tell. But other than that, Apple looked like the better solution. Still looking forward to what Canopus has to offer -- I've torched so much money on PCs in the last couple of years, it'd be kind of nice to be able to leverage all that. And I doubt any of the PCs I've got would meet Avid's stringent requirements, so I'd have to get another system entirely just to reliably run XPress Pro HD, and while I'm buying another system anyway...

I dunno. I should give Avid another chance probably.
 
Thx Barry to share it. As you well know, your steps are appreciated among us. So, it will be always important that you update what do you think regarding a workable NLE, as well, your experience with this or that choice. Thank you in advance!
 
<PS> I think that AVID marketing department should know your needs. It irritates me that these brands act like the interest be just ours - the customer side. You (Barry) are a guru star* and I think that's its their interest you choose one or another system. Your opinion makes a lot of other users' purchases (thousands of them). You are saying that you must buy!? Of course, I follow you but it's unfair. Period.

*<PS>
If even my girlfriend:kiss: knows your name without reading nothing yours! [you can't figure how much she is jealous:laugh: because has been saying that I spend more time with your posts than pay attention on her...she is not blonde - OK! - but she has green eyes and she is gorgeous!!...and, probably, as unfair as the AVID marketing personnel] :)
 
If i get a monitor now that is not HD, will i need to get a new one for the HVX? What's the difference?

thanx

Jon
 
i really hope Liquid (also AVID) will soon allow native DVCPro100. but just like Barry i am intending to go to Apple if Canopus and Avid are the only other choices.
I changed NLE last year (from SpeedRazor to Liquid) and still make the same in the editing room. but i also got a new cam (the DVX) in that time and it changed my style much more than the NLE. all NLEs can do everything after some time, but only few cams can do what the new Panasonics can do ;) so priority 1 is the cam and then the tools need to follow.
 
Barry_Green said:
Well... I dunno. I saw a demo of it, and I just think that Apple had their number. There were some things that Avid actually did better, such as being able to directly edit the MXF files. Apple currently can't, you have to "ingest" them and convert them to Quicktimes. That's the only real glaring fly in the ointment, near as I could tell. But other than that, Apple looked like the better solution. Still looking forward to what Canopus has to offer -- I've torched so much money on PCs in the last couple of years, it'd be kind of nice to be able to leverage all that. And I doubt any of the PCs I've got would meet Avid's stringent requirements, so I'd have to get another system entirely just to reliably run XPress Pro HD, and while I'm buying another system anyway...

I dunno. I should give Avid another chance probably.
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I would think apple would be quick to add this feature. Any word about it on the floor?

jesse
 
The conversion of the MXF files to Quicktime should go pretty fast on a G5. I don't think apple is going to change that process. QT is a cornerstone of the entire OS, so it would seem better to have everything inside that codec.
What bugs me with Avid is the effect editor. For simple editing Avid might even be faster then FCP, but when you start using effects... forget Avid alltogether. I've used both for quite a while now, and Apple has defenitly got their number. But hey, they've been able to build everything up from scratch in the near past. Avid had to keep certain designs and layouts for existing costumers sake.
BTW, Apple only started FCP because Avid said they where going to leave the mac platform a couple of years ago. Funny how things turn out sometimes... :)
 
I have been waiting for an excuse to move on over to FCP.
Many of many editor friends swear by it (Not to it). Even if
Apple is going to Intel, I don't care because the camera is the thing. Plus all my agency clients can laugh at me after they see my PC sitting in the corner.
 
The big advantage to apple is that they make and/or control everything. So 99% of the stuff kust works, no hassle. Offcourse that the disadvantage aswell, cause it makes them more expensive. But the extra you pay for the machine, you can save on the software. So it should even out more or less.
I grew up in a mac-environment. Yet I work with wintels daily at the company I freelance for. But when I have a choiche I'll pick the mac in 95% of the cases.
 
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