HV 20 announced

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BARYE

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Engadget reveals that Canon is coming out w/the HV20 for those that need a second backup camera/playback deck. It seems significantly improved over the HV10 coming w/mic,headphone, and HDMI ports -- as well as better low light performance...

"....and instead of an upright form factor like Canon's HV10, they've gone long-and-lean this time which should help bring a bit more stability to your videos. As we hoped, low light shooting has indeed been improved from a 5 to 3 lux sensitivity at 1/30 second shutter speed or from 0.3 to 0.2 lux at 1/2 second shutter speed. Everything else is just like we heard on this HDV 1080i MiniDV recorder: 2.96 megapixel CMOS sensor, 10x optical zoom, 2.7-inch LCD, miniSD slot and new HDMI out, accessory shoe, and jacks for your headphones and mic. The HV20 is expected to hit Japan sometime in March, priced at about ¥140,000 ($1,154) to go head-to-head with Sony's HDR-HC7. No guarantees mind you, but we expect this to come west before summer."

http://www.watch.impress.co.jp/av/docs/20070131/canon1.htm


...Equipped with True Full HD CMOS Sensor and Canon’s advanced DIGIC DV II imaging processor, it is made for higher speed processing and color reproduction. In addition, HV20 is packed with many powerful features such as Super Range Optical Image Stabilizer and Instant AF System to enhance overall shooting experience.

HV20 – Feature Highlights

mic port
headphone jack
2.96 Mega Pixel Canon True Full HD CMOS Sensor (1920 X 1080 pixels)
Canon 10x HD Video Lens
DIGIC DV II imaging processor
Super Range Optical Image Stabilizer (OIS)
Instant AF System
HDMI (High Definition Multimedia Interface) Output
25p cinema mode
 
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Wow. Canon is out for blood. $1,099 for 24p... that opens up the market to so many more people!

How odd that it claims to record 24P in 60i; that's not how 24F does it. I wonder if they're choosing to avoid the proprietary 24F in favor of universal playback capability, seeing as this is a strictly consumer product and therefore the consumer wouldn't be likely to understand why their tapes won't play back in their friend's Sony? Smart move by Canon, I think... the last thing the consumer needs is more confusion.
 
maybe so more people can edit? 24F is not the norm for editing is it?

I'm wondering can 24P in 60i even be edited in something like iMovie HD?
 
Wow, after reading Chris Hurd's writeup, this is an impressive little cam... For close to a thousand bucks.... Kudos, Canon!!
 
Wow, I'm buying one of these. (My Sony HC3 will soon be up for sale.)

The HV20 makes me also favor Canon for my next "prosumer" camera purchase. Canon's choice of 24p (instead of 24f) for the HV20 is curious. I wonder if we'll soon see an "XHA2" with 24p and HDMI out?

Canon is kicking butt in the HDV space!
 
I am soooooo freaking in. I'm getting one. Now I can have my CAnon flavor AND my HVX flavor!

w00t!!!! It won't be quite like having an A1 and an HVX, but it will be like having two 24p cameras to use. And if it STILL looks as freaking clear as the HV10 does... omggggggg.

There went another 1200 from my bank account.
 
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Time will tell. But dang, Canon is straight wrangling. Like Barry said, they're out for blood. LOL. Every time I turn around, something Canon is popping up.

Speaking of popping up: I haven't seen a release date for it yet. Anyone know?

Looks like I need to invest an Blackmagic's HDMI card now.
 
Barry_Green said:
Wow. Canon is out for blood. $1,099 for 24p... that opens up the market to so many more people!

How odd that it claims to record 24P in 60i; that's not how 24F does it. I wonder if they're choosing to avoid the proprietary 24F in favor of universal playback capability, seeing as this is a strictly consumer product and therefore the consumer wouldn't be likely to understand why their tapes won't play back in their friend's Sony? Smart move by Canon, I think... the last thing the consumer needs is more confusion.
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that would be my guess Barry. This just means more kids shooting 24P hd on thier myspace film/youtube accounts. 3 cheers for progress?? or 3 fears for respectability? I dunno. Whatever. lol. Will this HV20 playback 24F? That would be my only use in getting it.
 
What about 24F?

What about 24F?

Can the HV20 still act like a deck for the A1 like the HV10 (work with 24f/ 30f)?
T-h-e-w-h-o you beat me to it.
 
t-h-e-w-h-o said:
that would be my guess Barry. This just means more kids shooting 24P hd on thier myspace film/youtube accounts. 3 cheers for progress?? or 3 fears for respectability? I dunno. Whatever. lol. Will this HV20 playback 24F? That would be my only use in getting it.
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Yeah, how rude of Canon... driving those who claim to be the "real deal" to step up their game. When the whole world has a toy that can do 24p, just means you need to push harder to make great product.

I'm all for it.
 
Kholi said:
Speaking of popping up: I haven't seen a release date for it yet. Anyone know?.
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Beginning of March.
wendt said:
Can the HV20 still act like a deck for the A1 like the HV10 (work with 24f/ 30f)?
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Yes it can still serve as a deck for the other formats.
"Playback for 24F & 30F Frame Mode and four-channel audio"
More here
 
According to Chris Hurd's "overview" article, it does have the capability to play back 24F. But it would have been nice if it had the option to record 24F; I'd say that 24F is the "better" quality recording method rather than 2:3 pulldown, certainly better for editing. But then again, we're talking about a $1000 high-def camera here(!) and if they could only do one or the other, I think they made the more correct choice for the consumer base by making it 2:3/60i so that it'll be cross-compatible.
 
Kholi said:
Yeah, how rude of Canon... driving those who claim to be the "real deal" to step up their game. When the whole world has a toy that can do 24p, just means you need to push harder to make great product.

I'm all for it.
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very true. :)

And yeah, i think 24F is superior editing workflow to 24P, but like Barry is saying, its still 1 grand 24P... not bad... lol ill be getting one as soon as i can buy it, anyone know when b&h gets em?
 
t-h-e-w-h-o said:
very true. :)

And yeah, i think 24F is superior editing workflow to 24P, but like Barry is saying, its still 1 grand 24P... not bad... lol ill be getting one as soon as i can buy it, anyone know when b&h gets em?
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That's my point. I have an HVX, but wanted an A1 as well. I was going to get an HV10 but everytime I got to Best Buy, something just said "hold off". I guess this is why.

I mean, 1k for 24p, HDMI-out, and Canon quality sharpness? Definitely. I'll probably skip the out-of-state order and just go to Best Buy or Circuit City to pick one up when it hits shelves.

The HDMI is of special interest, because you could effectively use this sharp camera tethered for Greenscreen shooting, capturing straight to PhotoJPEG. And it's not to say that you can't do a great job with the HVX, or tether, or yadda yadda. It is.
Just, wow. Go Canon.
 
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