HPX170 First Look

Is the 170 meant as a replacement to the HVX200? And if so, then does that mean the 200a is just a placeholder until the 170 is released?
 
naveenmedia said:
Is the 170 meant as a replacement to the HVX200? And if so, then does that mean the 200a is just a placeholder until the 170 is released?
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The 200A is there because there is still a market that needs tape. I expect that most of us would look to the 170 instead of the 200A, but for those who have to have tape, the 200A is offered.
 
Yeah, I think even Jan said that probably 90% will go to the 170, but the 200a is there so as not to leave people behind if they need that option.

Later,
Jason
 
Barry

Thanks for the GREAT overview of this new cam. Looks like a killer handheld cam!

The only question now is how much? I sure hope Pani US delivers the cam and 16 GB card for sub $5K. :Drogar-Shock(DBG):

:dankk2: JohnG
 
i have what is probably a stupid question, but here goes. does the smaller lens affect depth of field? just wondering if Z99 on the larger HVX lens will have a shallower depth than the Z99 on the 170...i've ran dvx and hvx plenty but never compared the two on that level...that being said, the added features on the 170 make it a must have...so i assume that the focus assist still times out on the hvx200a?
 
Didn't test the focus-assist time-out, but I didn't notice it staying "on" so I'm pretty sure it does time out.

The HVX200A should be capable of very slightly shallower DOF than the HPX170. They use the same chipset but the 200A's lens is a little bit longer (55mm vs. 51mm). Frankly I doubt anyone will notice the difference in DOF.
 
Barry, being that this is a 72mm front element- do you think an accessory like the Chosziel Sunshade for the DVX will work on this camera? The wider lens plus the native 16x9 format make me wonder. I don't fully understand the nature of how these things affect vignetting, besides the obvious (a wider field of view may grab more for the hood).
 
Is the camera really coming out in September as the rumors implied?

I'm holding out on a few projects just waiting for it to come out, all the "issues" I had with the HVX have been pretty much solved or improved with the 170 (tape drive, noise, low sensitivity, bulk, non-flippable LCD)

It needs to come out like, yesterday, for me. =p
 
According to the Panasonic people at NAB, they said "September." Check back in August and we should hear some more updates, probably a working model at the WEVA show.
 
yzmotoxer807 said:
Personally, I think it is ugly but the specs look like way more than enough to make up for the ugliness. :)
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Yeah, it isn't the most attractive piece that Panasonic has come up with but stick it on some rails with an adapter and a mattebox and it should look gorgeous.
 
I haven't seen a real clear answer on this..

Will the image flip on the camera for 35 mm adapters be ONLY on the LCD or will it also be on external monitors? I know that it really doesn't matter that much, but having a monitor right-side up is 'cleaner', so to speak. I think anyone would prefer having a monitor mounted like it should be rather than not.

Thanks in advance.

Conrad
 
If the HPX 170 is coming in at $5k (£ anyguess), and Scarlett is expected $3k bare and $5k complete, then what has the HPX got that would make me sell my HVX?
Not meant to sound sarky, I really would like a comparison, since we're looking at two fixed-lens solid-state cams that are likely to compete on at least some common ground.
Dave
 
daveswan said:
If the HPX 170 is coming in at $5k (£ anyguess), and Scarlett is expected $3k bare and $5k complete, then what has the HPX got that would make me sell my HVX?
Not meant to sound sarky, I really would like a comparison, since we're looking at two fixed-lens solid-state cams that are likely to compete on at least some common ground.
Dave
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For one the 170 will be out many months, if not 1-2 years before the Scarlet.
 
If the HPX 170 is coming in at $5k (£ anyguess), and Scarlett is expected $3k bare and $5k complete, then what has the HPX got that would make me sell my HVX?
Not meant to sound sarky, I really would like a comparison, since we're looking at two fixed-lens solid-state cams that are likely to compete on at least some common ground.
Dave
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1.) HPX 170 exists. Scarlet is still on the list with my anti gravity skateboard and car that runs on creativity. I really want them but until they are here they don't do me much good.

2.) Workflow. P2's adoption by NLEs has really come a long way. It goes instantly into many NLEs, some with out transcoding or QT wrapping. Red still is the shoots pretty pictures no fun to edit camera. ( I am sure a lot will change by the time scarlet is released but now it is what it is)

3.) Versatility - HPX can be a cinema or production camera. With all the formats you could take jobs that want DVC Pro 50 or even DVC Pro and also throw a 35mm adapter on your camera and shoot HD and get beautiful cinema like shots.
 
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