HPX170 - A Second Look

First impression, WOW this thing is light... lol

I didn't power it up yet, just grabbed the manual and barry's book then took off for work for a couple of hours.

Oh I also took a few minutes to register it with panasonic.
 
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hey i just got my hpx170 . the first thing is the century 1.6 telephoto from the dvx100a doesn,t fit. will not get deep enough for the spinning ring. might be able to take off 20 thou off the lens ring will take a look. not going to dampen my mood. i must be the first? wow love it .
 
I will receive the pal HPX171 next week. It's 50/60 switchable. Will the NTSC DV25 be identical in term of color compression (4.1.1 if i'm right against 4.2.0 for Pal) & resolution to the one of a NTSC DVX100? I really like a lot of footages people did with dvx100s in NTSC, what will be the differences between some SD DV25 HPX footages and DVX100 footages?
 
NTSC DV25 will be 4:1:1 and, while the format is the same as an NTSC DVX100, the images will be much sharper on the HPX171.

PAL DV25 will be 4:2:0 and similarly superior to a PAL DVX100.

The biggest difference will be in 16:9 mode, the images will be way sharper. In 4:3 mode they'd be more comparable.
 
NTSC DV25 will be 4:1:1 and, while the format is the same as an NTSC DVX100, the images will be much sharper on the HPX171.

PAL DV25 will be 4:2:0 and similarly superior to a PAL DVX100.

The biggest difference will be in 16:9 mode, the images will be way sharper. In 4:3 mode they'd be more comparable.

thank you barry.
i've just seen HMC150 footages on my tv and it's really really nice!
i understood that the HPX170 will be better than the HMC150 in 1080P. That means HPX 1080P is sharper than HMC 1080P? Or is that a question of artifacts? What about the noise? Is the HPX really noisier than HMC?
HMC is noise free on my tv. Impressive.
 
i understood that the HPX170 will be better than the HMC150 in 1080P. That means HPX 1080P is sharper than HMC 1080P?
Well, no, not necessarily. I mean, the 170 will have more color information than the 150, but for overall sharpness they should be about the same. The 150 might eke out a few extra pixels of detail over the 170. But the main thing is about the compression artifacts, and if there are any. The 170 is very, very clean in 1080p mode. The 150 might be being pushed to its limits in 1080p mode depending on what the content of your scene is. The 150 is a long-GOP codec system, so its quality may change based on the type of footage you're shooting; the 170 will always be consistent.

Or is that a question of artifacts?
Yes, exactly.

What about the noise? Is the HPX really noisier than HMC?
They should be identical.
 
NTSC DV25 will be 4:1:1 and, while the format is the same as an NTSC DVX100, the images will be much sharper on the HPX171.

Barry... Would this DV25 image sharpness comparison be the same for the HPX170 vs the DVX100?
 
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