HPX170 - A Second Look

Here is something for people to check and report back on production 170's.
Please let us know if this was fixed.

Dan Leniczek said:
When you receive your 170's, please check the flip-out LCD's ability to accurately track the video when you do a fairly quick zoom out. I was at the Panasonic Expo in Seattle and had hands on experience with the 170. When I did fairly fast pull-outs, the monitor was unable to keep up with the realtime video and actually jumped. The Panasonic rep confirmed that the monitor lagged with this camera. Keep in mind, this occurred in 24 and 30 frame per second modes only. In 60 fps the monitor worked perfectly. I found this issue to be troubling, especially when confirmed by one of the Panasonic reps present. Please let me know your findings. It will help all of us make more informed purchases.
Thx,
dan
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Hi,

I don't see Dan on this thread, but I have no idea what he is talking about. I was at the Seattle event. Any name about a Panasonic employee that said this would be appreciated.

Thanks,

Jan
 
But Jan...You forgot to tell us if that still happens or not. Or if it ever did... just want to know if this is an issue on production 170s :huh:
 
USLatin said:
But Jan...You forgot to tell us if that still happens or not. Or if it ever did... just want to know if this is an issue on production 170s :huh:
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Hi,

If I don't understand what he is talking about then how could I respond as to whether someone said this.. Otherwise I have not seen what was said here to be true. Have never seen it.

Thanks,

Jan
 
Oh, you never saw this. Ok... relax Jan, we are just curious.. and since you never saw it chances are it could have been a camera that got dropped to the ground a few to many times in the frenzy of people dieing to get to play with it. :)

Please don't get the guy at the booth in trouble. :)
 
ttxsushi said:
I heard that the 170 lens ramps continuously from f/1.6 fully wide to f/3.0 at full telephoto.
If that will be confirmed would be a substantial difference compared to constant f/1.6 of the HVX200/200A, and a difference i dislike.
Barry could you say something about that?
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As others have said, the HVX200 and HVX200A lens also ramps (as does every other video camera lens out there, including the HD100 series and the EX1; those cameras ramp but they don't "tell" you that they're ramping). The HVX goes from 1.6 to 2.8. The 170/150 go from 1.6 to 3.0. The difference is negligible, about 1/8th of a stop.
 
USLatin said:
Oh, you never saw this. Ok... relax Jan, we are just curious.. and since you never saw it chances are it could have been a camera that got dropped to the ground a few to many times in the frenzy of people dieing to get to play with it. :)
Please don't get the guy at the booth in trouble. :)
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Hi,

I have been working with the very same camera and I did not not do I see the lag. But I am very used to LCDs. LCDs do have a lag. That is why the new BT-LH1760 has a 120Hz refresh, looks more like a monitor. so I think that somewhere in the conversation there was a communication gap. I checked in with the guys at the show and the conversation didn't seem memorable to them so who knows who said what. LCDs are not as fast as monitors and you can see it the first couple of times you use one for a VF, but pretty quickly you get used to it and you don't even notice.

Best,

Jan
 
Barry_Green said:
As others have said, the HVX200 and HVX200A lens also ramps (as does every other video camera lens out there, including the HD100 series and the EX1; those cameras ramp but they don't "tell" you that they're ramping). The HVX goes from 1.6 to 2.8. The 170/150 go from 1.6 to 3.0. The difference is negligible, about 1/8th of a stop.
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Thanks barry,
i was very tired when i wrote the message and my HVX wasn't at hand...
 
I heard the rumor that in europe it is pal/ntsc switchable out of the box .

Just wanted a conformation of that guy since he lives in Europe and got a hpx

USLatin said:
A few corrections ttxsushi:
_ the 200 doesn't have a fixed f-stop lens
_ neither does the 200A
_ I think the 170 is shipping with a 16GB P2

About the NTSC/PAL: There will be a Firmware patch of sorts that you will be able to download for a few hundred bucks... just read a few pages back and you'll see all about it.
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The HPX171E is PAL/NTSC switchable out of the box.
In the menu you go to Other Functions and change the System Frequency to either 59.94hz or 50hz. Once it has completed the change its a simple power off and on.
 
I have seen that the HD/SDI out is full size, without compression, 1920*1080.
Is that right ?
And if so, there is no delay? we know that the firewire have a delay.
Do some body have made a test ?
 
there is not much talk about the hd-sdi option on the hpx....i'm really curious about it....i wonder if it might be the shortcut to higher resolution....
 
Pierre Petit said:
there is not much talk about the hd-sdi option on the hpx....i'm really curious about it....i wonder if it might be the shortcut to higher resolution....
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It is not a shortcut to higher resolution. It is a shortcut to recording out to a different codec than DVCProHD. Same 960x540 pixel shifted output, the SDI cannot change the camera's imaging system.

Dan
 
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