Hpx-170 Lcd

I think most just wanted a better lcd, but not at a higher cost. You'd think they would've done that, since all the other competitors have better lcd's than the hvx's lcd, which leaves a lot to be desired. (even though it still is usable)
 
jstunzi wrote:

"All you guys saying you want a better LCD! Everyone saying that you'd pay $500-$1000 more to have that. Buy yourselves a proper field monitor. A Marshal, Nebtek, TVLogic, Carrion, whatever! "




Lot's of us already have an external monitor (I do)... and I use it under CERTAIN circumstances.

That doesn't change my needing a higher resolution LCD when I'm shooting hand held verite' in an environment where I don't want to look like ROBOCOP with an external monitor mounted in some TOTALLY UNBALANCED AND ERGONOMICALLY RETARDED WAY. This configuration prevents fluid and subtle camera operation more than the crummy standard def LCD does.
 
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Is it just a matter fo staying small?

It baffles me why the on-board LCD is such a huge deal. I have yet to see, on a professional production, a moment where an on-board LCD or EVF isn't strapped to the unit + multiple cables and wires?
 
doondoon said:
jstunzi wrote:
That doesn't change my needing a higher resolution LCD when I'm shooting hand held verite' in an environment where I don't want to look like ROBOCOP with an external monitor mounted in some TOTALLY UNBALANCED AND ERGONOMICALLY RETARDED WAY.
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Lolz.

If you are in a run and gun situation, it'd be nice to be able to go out with a light bare setup and have a good lcd to focus and such.
It's like anyone's saying a better lcd is a replacement for an external monitor.
 
The current LCD is sufficient, but it would be nice to have a bit more to reduce
strain of the eyes and speed things up a bit... just say 20% more would be a
nice noticeable difference.

Or you need a bunch of equipment: long rails, shoulder mount in the middle
battery far on the rear, handles, monitor bracket and the cables (hopefully
neatly routed). You have a sharing monitor, good on the fly focusing
capabilities, you are ready for a MB, add some rails and ready for an adapter,
but now you lost some of the versatility of the form factor.

A bit more definition on the LCD goes a very long way for starting packages
and many types of projects. A few bare HVX's with a sound guy can get
some decent work.
 
Kholi said:
How much more are you guys willing to pay for a High-Resolution on-board LCD in conjunction with the incredible extras Panasonic has thrown in? Speaking on the Waveform, etc.

General inquiry.
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I'd pay as much as $300 more. But I really don't see the LCD as a deal-breaker. For me, I use a 7" Marshall and often a 20" monitor on a stand. I use the HVX200's onboard LCD for text display. That's about all. But having a sharp, crisp LCD bulit-in would certainly be welcome for situations where I may be without anything else.

Personally, I like what they did with the HPX170. In fact, that will likely be my next camera upgrade. Sure, bigger chips would've been AMAZING. But we still get a beautiful upgrade. I'll use my Brevis 35mm adapter with it and continue to produce great looking footage! :)
 
They do make lightweight run and gun external LCDs. They just aren't very prominent. I mean look at the LCD on the RED. People say it's good for inside work but sucks for anything outside. You don't see REDusers complaining about it!

If you're looking for 20%, I think you'll find 20% in the new models from Panasonic. This doesn't mean they're going to necessarily publicize that fact. The 200a was the only HVX to be seen at NAB. No real way to compare them side by side
 
I have been wondering if what you guys have been saying about the new 200a and 170 is fact or not. I am not questioning it, just asking, cause I just haven't checked or looked much since I very likely won't be upgrading to them. So I have been kinds listening and catching just the main facts. But no upgrade for me, at least not this year. Well... who knows...
 
Roberto! Where ya been hiding?? :)

Yeah, your current HVX200 is still an awesomely capable camera. For myself, I think an upgrade is due soon. It's looking like an HPX170 is in my future. :)
 
hehe... you noticed I was gone?
I got very sick (still am) to the point that getting on the computer was an insanely dreadful task, I hope I am getting better, at least enough to pester you fellas

I need the gadgets, and I can go for it, but first I want some payed gigs... the longer I wait the cheaper some stuff gets but I need to at least get the RR MB with a 1/4 ND and a polarizer to use the HVX at it's full 1/3 imagers' potential, and a Carrion to make it easier and more accurate

I think for actual projects I can rent what we are missing

Right now I am wondering if I should develop my sound package, add a 744T or even just a 702T and try to get gigs like so, rent some Lectros when needed

either way I keep honing my skills and developing two features I am writing... at least one will get produced maybe even the following winter

170's with Ultimates would do the trick and then some... but shooting at below freezing (hopefully :)) demands two rigs...
 
Wow, yeah . . . I noticed! I haven't received a response from you until just now. Sorry to hear you've been sick. I hope you feel better, bro.

We'll have to catch up via a phone call soon. I want to hear more. And also share with you my latest projects.
 
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I'd say very likely... or they only changed things they felt like changing and didn't listen to us
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I would have to say your perception is totally off. We put in what we could and I could go through the list and point to various ideas and say this came from there.
As far as the LCD, keep in mind that the entire Thumbnail display is SD and thus, we would have to add the cost of re-engineering that display so that it was HD in order to make a higher pixel count. You don't even want to know the price.

That said, we added two addition focus assist functions, one is on the HPX3000, the 2000, and the 500, and the new P2 Varicams. I mean I can focus the HPX500 in a heartbeat with the Histogram, it is so easy.

There are many functions on this camera that are very smart and can help anyone that is coming into the P2 workflow and not have to deal with long GOP and a lot of compression.

Best,

Jan
 
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Jan, you are the second to misread that... I thought it was "very likely" you would, and by that I meant do something about it... I was wrong in thinking it would be more pixels though
I am glad to hear that and not surprised as you guys have lead the pack on listening and responding
 
Hi Jan,

Just wanted to say Hi on DVXuser.

It was a pleasure meeting you at NAB.

If you don't remember, I met you with Barry Green while he was showing us the HPX170. and I was the one showing you my monitor. (the Carrion) and pestering you to put a flip option on the menu, the pass through to a monitor or hd-sdi when feeding back firewire from a firestore, and I can't remember what else.

In case I didn't say it then, I just want to thank you for listening to us and for getting so many features on the HPX170. it really is amazing. Cant wait to see it.

Also, send me a PM, I wanted to talk to you about something that was brought up to me by one of my customers. Thanks.
 
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