How to get high quality widescreen footage

disjecta

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I was going to name this post "The Poor Man's Anamorphic" but decided that would be misleading.

The goal here is to produce widescreen footage of stunning quality without the use of an anamorphic lens.

I must acknowledge my conversation with IAMLOSER who inspired me to experiment.

You will need a program called Photozoom Pro to do this. It's available on the Web as a demo.

My goal is to start off with the highest quality footage possible from the DVX with just the fixed lens. My understanding is that if you are working in a 4x3 environment, footage that has been shot with the in-camera letterbox is not actually compromised regarding resolution. The camera just masks the actual 4x3 footage and performs no digital stretching or other modification. (Barry, is this correct?).

Here are the steps:

1. Shoot some footage using the in-camera letterbox.

2. Capture into a 4x3 project in your NLE and edit the piece to where you are happy with it.

3. Export the finished timeline as uncompressed TIFF frames.

4. Launch Photozoom Pro and click the NEW BATCH button.

5. Set the NEW SIZE to 864 pixels wide and 616 pixels high (make sure that MAINTAIN ASPECT RATIO is deselected). The 864 gives you a true widescreen width and the 616 height stretches the frame just high enough so that when you import the new frames into a 16x9 project, the letterbox disappears and the correct ratio is displayed. Also choose the default S-SPLINE for the resize method.

6. Run the new batch in Photozoom Pro and choose a folder to dump the newly-sized frames into. These new frames are no longer anamorphic because you have sized them exactly to the widescreen spec. (note: there is a limitation of 1170 frames in Photozoom's batch processing so you may have to do multiple batches, depending on the length of your piece)

7. When the batch is finished processing, open up a new 16x9 project in your NLE and import the new TIFF frames as a sequence. Your NLE should create a single video file for you to work with.

8. There should be no need to interpret the footage. It should stay at square pixels and fit in your widescreen window perfectly.

9. Import your original letterbox footage for comparison (you will need to stretch it vertically by about 129% to fit in the widescreen window).

10. Render the timeline with both files and take a look at the difference, it is truly stunning.

Photozoom Pro adds sharpness to your original frame but it's not a video sharpness that's created, it's more like a "high-quality-telecined-35mm-transfer" look. Kind of like what you see on nicely produced movie DVDs.

Photozoom does a fantastic job of resizing the original 4x3 to 16x9 and the overall look just blew me away. The render time will kill you (about 6 seconds per frame on a 1.8ghz computer) but, like Magic Bullet, it's worth it.

The primary benefit of this method over using the anamorphic lens is that you still maintain full control over exposure and depth of field.

You can also use this method on anamorphic-originated footage...it will make it look sharper and there is an implied resolution gain (not actual). The only thing you would change for this in the method above is the resizing dimensions. In this case, you would be resizing to 864 pixels wide by 480 pixels high.

Anyway, I wanted to share this with whoever is interested and run it by Barry to see if some of my assumptions are correct, particularly regarding the lack of quality loss using letterbox mode on a 4x3 timeline.
 
Re: Barry --- I'd like your thoughts on this

Re: Barry --- I'd like your thoughts on this

Fascinating! *runs off to find a copy of Photozoom Pro*
 
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[quote author=disjecta link=board=Events;num=1097768895;start=0#0 date=10/14/04 at 08:48:15]
4. Launch Photozoom Pro and click the NEW BATCH button.
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Wouldn't it also be possible to batch convert the images with Photoshop? I've done batch conversions of this type before using PS so it should be possible. You would also be able to apply other filters and effects during the batch.
 
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Yes, you're correct about letterbox, letterbox leaves the footage in its original, unmodified form at full resolution. It may even improve the quality of the footage between the letterbox bars slightly, since DV macroblocks can take advantage of savings in one area of the picture to allocate more bits to other macroblocks.

However, I'm curious as to why you'd need such a convoluted workflow... why not just stretch the 720x372 up to 720x480 in Photozoom? Going to 864, and square pixels, just means that the NLE will have to perform a second stretch to get it back down to 720, and I'm guessing the NLE's stretch won't be nearly as high-quality as the Photozoom stretch...
 
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how would this compare with starting with footage shot in squeeze mode?

matthew
 
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Interesting question..

Could we perhaps get some frame grabs demonstrating each of the above for comparison?
 
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[quote author=Barry_Green link=board=Events;num=1097768895;start=0#3 date=10/14/04 at 10:29:26]However, I'm curious as to why you'd need such a convoluted workflow... why not just stretch the 720x372 up to 720x480 in Photozoom?  Going to 864, and square pixels, just means that the NLE will have to perform a second stretch to get it back down to 720, and I'm guessing the NLE's stretch won't be nearly as high-quality as the Photozoom stretch...[/quote]

There is no stretch or squeeze needed, as mentioned earlier. 864 is the actual full width of DV widescreen when it is imported. I verified this by importing a single frame of the uprezzed file. Premiere recognized it as a photo and placed it on the timeline at 100%, no resizing or squeezing...and it fit perfectly in the window.

I believe the 720 dimension refers to the anamorphic width, not the actual width.

Regardless of how it does it, the results are dramatically, and I mean dramatically, better than the NLE can do by itself.

Photoshop does not even approach the quality when uprezzing that Photozoom Pro can achieve.
 
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PhotoZoom Pro is really amazing. You have to try it yourself (free trial). Take a small graphic (an avatar) and resize it to like 1000x1000 pixels. Then change the method from s-spline (PhotoZoom's proprietary algorithm) to bicubic or bilinear (what Photoshop uses). The difference is astounding.

Disjecta and IAL, this is a great idea. Any way either of you could post a short video sample? Can't wait to see the results.
 
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But the NLE will have to scale all that 864-pixel stuff down to 720 when it makes anamorphic footage. 864 is only valid if you're viewing on a square-pixel device (such as in Photoshop). So if you're making an anamorphic DVD the program absolutely has to scale that 864-pixel image down to 720...

... so I'm saying, why not try it sticking with 720 the whole time? I'm not doubting that your results are superb, I'm just trying to find a way to do it with fewer steps, which may result in even better-looking footage (because it removes the NLE's resize/stretch process).
 
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Okay, well I'm still in the experimenting stages so I'll try it. Thanks for the input   :D

Regarding posting the results, I'll see what I can do when I perfect this and can show something that can be seen in a smaller size for the Web.
 
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Okay, here's an example of some footage I shot last night using letterbox mode and then rezzed up to widescreen using Photozoom as described above.

The first part is the untouched file and then it kicks into the uprezzed version (I put a scope matte on the second part to instantly differentiate it.

Pay attention to the rockery by the water, the leaves on the trees and the white house....they are good visual cues for the rez enhancement. I also made a small levels adjustment to the second half.

The impression I get is a much more three-dimensional feel with the detail revealed. Kind of like the dimensionality of film that video usually lacks...

You really need to see this on a screen to appreciate it but maybe this can give you an idea...

http://www.pinelakefilms.com/photozoom.html
 
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WOW, that looks awesome! Well done, and thanks for the demo!

I wonder how this technique would look with anamorphic source footage? Dare I say *better* than XL2? :) (Shhh, don't tell XL2 users about this.) ;)
 
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Yes 4x3 will work the same way. It's just easier to shoot in letterbox for me for framing purposes.
 
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About an hour ;D

But hey, it's totally worth it to me.

I'm currently doing the same to my Marymoor Park footage (I posted this a while back), which is 5 minutes long and it looks like it's going to take about 12 hours to render all the frames...

I know, it sucks, but you have to focus on the results.
 
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I remember Marymoor...beautiful. It's going to look even better and I look forward to seeing the uprezzed version.

This process is a significant development.
 
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So, what kind of dolly do you have? That shot looked perfectly smooth. Great!
 
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i'm really interested in shooting with my anamorphic lens in letterbox mode and going for something cinemascope like.

what is your computer setup like so i can gauge the 12 hours of rendering your mentioned?

does someone know the specifics of taking something that is anamorphic and then letterboxed and remove the letterbox and render it out to a dvd with no black border? or do you have to leave the border for the dvd to show it properly?

matthew
 
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