I brought this up a few posts earlier. On B&H, 5D MK IV still outsells EOS R despite being priced at a grand higher. But $1,600-$1,800 is still the upper mid-range as far as the overall market goes.
GH5 How interested are you in a GH6 anymore?
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I brought this up a few posts earlier. On B&H, 5D MK IV still outsells EOS R despite being priced at a grand higher. But $1,600-$1,800 is still the upper mid-range as far as the overall market goes.
Thomas Smet
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Stopped down a stop and they both match up much better. I watch a lot of Christopher Frost lens reviews. I tend to be rather picky. I bought the cheap 50mm RF because int was cheap and I wasn't even sure if I was going to keep the R6. Wanted to see if native RF was really worth it. Its also part of why I still think a $2,500 GH6 has a lot of value to some users. I'm not about to pay $2,500 for a 50mm lens just because its a tad sharper wide open. Starting over with lenses sucks. If I waited for the GH6 I would have been in a much better position. Now I'm kind of starting over except for the good EF lenses I already have.
I think I'm going to keep the R6. Not 100% sure yet. To be completely honest I much preferred shooting stills with the Canon M6 mk2. The video was fun to shoot but I hated the low detail scaling tricks the camera did to manage 4k video. I wish Canon would have given Ef-M a better chance. It had so much potential.
NorBro
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No, they don't. And I don't know why you say things like this.
That's the biggest issue I have with most of your posts; a lot of what you say is baseless and only expressed with emotion.
Use a comparison tool online and show what you're saying to be true.
f/2.8...versus still wide-open on the f/1.2.
They don't match up better at all. The cheap 50mm looks like crap and will affect the true potential of a high-end resolution camera.
https://www.the-digital-picture.com/...mp=0&APIComp=0
Peter C.
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You think your family members notice sharpness and would be upset if you used a kit lens? Photos are so numerous today they're practically disposable. Snap a picture, share, and those involved will glance at them then most likely never look at them again. Even the idea that sharpness is undoubtedly a desirable attribute isn't true either. Frost filters are very popular to make the image less sharp.
NorBro
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It's because I would want the best for them if I'm using a camera like that and not an iPhone, not what they would or would not notice.
Frost filters are a gimmick...or your 1970s high school yearbook picture (not necessarily yours, someones).
People use diffusion on some cameras, but it won't be on the R6, lol.
Frost filters are a gimmick...or your 1970s high school yearbook picture (not necessarily yours, someones).
People use diffusion on some cameras, but it won't be on the R6, lol.
NorBro
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And sharpness in terms of contrast and resolving fine details is a very desirable attribute because it builds the foundation of the entire image while being able to be dialed down as well.
But if you start with garbage in then it's garbage out.
Although I will say some photographers are on another level in terms of analyzing and dissecting their images...high-standards, but maybe unrealistic as well.
But if you start with garbage in then it's garbage out.
Although I will say some photographers are on another level in terms of analyzing and dissecting their images...high-standards, but maybe unrealistic as well.
ahalpert
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Is that all you do? Remove power while it's on? Because it writes down the timer reading during an orderly shut-off?
Sounds a little stressful. You have to make sure you're done writing the last clip first. I can see myself under time pressure sweating those few seconds. Ultimately it's not worth the stress for me, and definitely not a good look in front of a client, though maybe you could pretend you're just changing the battery
Uncropped 4k60 is a big advantage for the R6 over the a7iv, however
I'm trying to reduce workarounds. If canon didn't want to sell me a fully functional product in that price tier at that time, then so be it
ahalpert
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Or get this even bigger beauty and cry a few times more! The 28-70 f/2
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1433713-REG/canon_rf_28_70mm_f_2l_usm.html
NorBro
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Look at the size comparison between those two...28-70mm is huge and heavier.
I'm sure it's a little better (although breathing is beyond terrible), but I actually think its size is a negative.
NorBro
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You also change the date, too:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kwDvgp0dtXk
Video could be about 1 minute and 20 seconds shorter, but check it out if you want.
I think your a7SIII was the right choice though, you're getting great results. That 50mm really impressed me the other week. (Love the non-GM 85mm as well.)
NorBro
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By the way, I actually tried the above so I know it works.
I wouldn't say it worked without testing it because it's really important to know if it will really work for such a serious problem that bricks your camera when the overheating comes on.
The higher-capacity batteries last for over 1.5 hours so I personally would easily be able to find a moment to do it with most of my shoots (when I worked more).
But it's absolutely a no-go for all-day, non-stop filming like keynotes or something, one after another to the podium with clapping and speaker transitions having to be captured.
But keynotes could also be filmed in a lower-quality 4K or HD mode, so maybe it's moot.
I wouldn't say it worked without testing it because it's really important to know if it will really work for such a serious problem that bricks your camera when the overheating comes on.
The higher-capacity batteries last for over 1.5 hours so I personally would easily be able to find a moment to do it with most of my shoots (when I worked more).
But it's absolutely a no-go for all-day, non-stop filming like keynotes or something, one after another to the podium with clapping and speaker transitions having to be captured.
But keynotes could also be filmed in a lower-quality 4K or HD mode, so maybe it's moot.
A7 IV adjusts/almost eliminates focus breathing in camera ... but only on Sony branded lenses. Which is a sturdy middle finger to Sigma, Tamron and Zeiss. Among others.
Thomas Smet
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Because there is more to images than just charts. Thats one test. The 50mm f1.8 cleans up a lot stopped down a stop. Ok maybe it gets even better stopped down two stops.
My point was that they do start to look similar the more they are stopped down. Once one gets to f4 and f5.6 territory the do start to look closer.
I'm not even sure what point you are trying to make here. if you are trying to convince me a $2,500 lens is better than a $200 well duh dude. I'm not even sure how this twisted into a discussion about lens quality. You sure do love to go off topic a lot.
Thomas Smet
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Are we sure this is safe long term for the camera? While Canon could very well be adding an artificial length for whatever odd reason there could be some long term negative effects of doing this a lot. The camera is getting hot and other cooling solutions like adding a fan or using external recording to generate less heat in the body do seem to help. I'm not convinced its 100% an artificial
limitation Canon added to the camera just because.
I would be a little hesitant to suggest others do this and potentially cause damage to the camera. I'm not really a fan of hacks like this. Good to know its there is an emergency but I would love to hear how safe its been for others that have done it a lot.
Peter C.
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I think his lens argument is that even if the GH6 body is priced the same as a FF that if you wanted to keep the price similar you would have to get kit lens for the FF and for the same price you could get a higher quality m43 lens. Resulting in the same quality. Similar to the old question is it better to have an expensive body with a cheap lens or a cheap body with an expensive lens.
As far as pulling the battery to reset over heating that’s not a good solution for most pro work for all the reasons mentioned.
- possibly shorting the life of the camera
- accidentally interrupting camera writing to card
- interrupting continuous recording when it’s needed for example live streaming a wedding ceremony
Another problem is if you have the camera mounted on a tripod or gimbal, the camera needs to be unmounted to access the battery. In live event work like weddings you wouldn’t want the stress of potential being caught in this process and miss an important event like the bride procession.
Shooting weddings is stressful enough you don’t need another layer of complexity and stress that your camera could shut down without warning due to over heating and having to pull the battery throughout the day to hack the camera timer that might eventually damage it.
Canon left this over heating issue in these cameras to discourage or limit their use as primary video cameras, encouraging you to buy a cinema line like the c70
As far as pulling the battery to reset over heating that’s not a good solution for most pro work for all the reasons mentioned.
- possibly shorting the life of the camera
- accidentally interrupting camera writing to card
- interrupting continuous recording when it’s needed for example live streaming a wedding ceremony
Another problem is if you have the camera mounted on a tripod or gimbal, the camera needs to be unmounted to access the battery. In live event work like weddings you wouldn’t want the stress of potential being caught in this process and miss an important event like the bride procession.
Shooting weddings is stressful enough you don’t need another layer of complexity and stress that your camera could shut down without warning due to over heating and having to pull the battery throughout the day to hack the camera timer that might eventually damage it.
Canon left this over heating issue in these cameras to discourage or limit their use as primary video cameras, encouraging you to buy a cinema line like the c70
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Or R5c.
NorBro
Major Contributor
Because you do, bro! You don't listen and you don't learn.
Odd reason...you're not convinced?
You're exhausting.
I can't help you. lol