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Justyn said:
few more questions:

So how long can you record on an average size SD card? How much do they usually cost? Have you also used it as a B-cam with HVX stuff? How would you compare it to the HV20 in terms of overal image quality.. and finally, Where did you buy it from?


Also.. that footage looks really GREAT. One of the coolest things I've ever done in my life was going downhill mountain biking in UT. It was simply the BEST. I have that cat crapping grin on my face for days and would have spent every dime I had going back up the chairlift if I wasn't working. That was something inspirational and you are so right. It's clear and handles the bumps, and that jump really well. I think you just helped me realize my error in camera purchase.
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I've just got a 4GB flash card. According to the panasonic propaganda, this should give me a little over an hour of footage (which is about what the stock battery is supposed to provide for power coincidently). SD cards are cheap. I think I paid $30-35 for that one.

As far as further comparison with the hv20/30, what little I did with the hv30 was only to compare them as POV cameras. I shoot mainly with a DVX100 and just wanted a helmet cam only out of this thing. It's pretty obvious that you can get some great footage out of the canons based on what people have been producing with them. Unless the 'mounted camera in motion' thing is a huge part of your shooting, the CMOS/global shutter shouldn't be an issue. For me that's literally all I wanted so the canon route isn't feasible. You still own a good camera though. Just not one that's best suited for POV shots.

As far as comparisons to HVX footage, I've only ever used about 2-3 clips from an HVX so I don't think I'm really qualified to comment on matching the two.


Zander: that's in a state recreation area in Auburn, CA. That's the consolation winter riding when you live in tahoe. :D


And justyn: go hit up santos man......that place is fun.
 
From some very short clips I shot at Circuit City with the SD9, and owning an HV20, I would have to say that image quality from the HV20 is going to be better for most typical uses (especially indoors).
 
thanks guys. Kid, that is what I primarily want a camera for. We have started an aerial video/still company using the largest RC helicopter you can buy that's not a custom model. We now have the chopper all pimp'd out and really dialed in, but the HV20 is just sucking wind 20 percent of the time. Sure, 80 percent is a lot better than what we started with, but having 1/5th of our shots unusuable for the DTs, as you called them, is not going to work. If we have a crucial shot during that time, then we are screwed and not in a good way.

I'm just torn on whether I want to keep the HV20 or not. Thanks Robert for mentioning the Circuit City location. I also won't really be shooting indoors with this thing and everything will be during the day... for the most part.


Part of me wishes I had picked up the bigger video mount and just flew my HVX but if that goes down then I'm really loosing a ton of money.


Also, for those who think that we are just poop pooing the HV20 on global shutter, I have about an hour of jello footage to show. And about an hour of footage that'll make you squint and think you are drunk. CMOS has some advantages, but it really really sucks for applications like what I'm doing. SUCKS bad.


also. did you check out bluenook for batteries and such. They are so cheap and great company to deal with. I got my HV20 batteries for 25 bucks each. Really good deal and great people. I'm hoping they have all the panny stuff as well.


CHEERS and what's Santos? A trail or park?
 
Satya said:
David

How did you use Perian to convert m2ts movies? Do you have to have the exact folder structure as is recorded on the HDD/SDHC or you just drag-and-drop m2ts files into whatever-u-drag-them-to?

My FCP 6.0.2 doesn't seem to recognize m2ts files and even QT doesn't recognize them. I'll try with iMovie "08.

Satya
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I just install Perian 1.1 in a MBP, and then used the log and transfer controls in FCP.

I mounted the SD card in the USB slot that contained the AVCHD native folder structure.

FCP and iMovie saw that card and provided the thumbnails
 
Guys at circuit city now, there's a 10 percent coupon and you can select in store pickup. Going to cost 700 total including tax. The coupon voucher code is: FUAUTGVAUX


Anyone thinking of getting the hard drive version? What would be the pros and cons of this and anyone use the HD version? I think i'm buying it tomorrow either way.


Today was laughable. We shot from the helicopter with a fast shutter and talk about Jello. CMOS cameras just plan suck at panning and movement and vibrations. Finally driven me to put the HV20 up for sale. Sucks so bad it's almost comical at what it does to the image.

Does the Red exhibit this kind of thing, even modestly? I was so hot on the Scarlett, but if that has a CMOS chip.. probably not too much. cheers all
 
Justyn said:
Guys at circuit city now, there's a 10 percent coupon and you can select in store pickup. Going to cost 700 total including tax. The coupon voucher code is: FUAUTGVAUX


Anyone thinking of getting the hard drive version? What would be the pros and cons of this and anyone use the HD version? I think i'm buying it tomorrow either way.


Today was laughable. We shot from the helicopter with a fast shutter and talk about Jello. CMOS cameras just plan suck at panning and movement and vibrations. Finally driven me to put the HV20 up for sale. Sucks so bad it's almost comical at what it does to the image.

Does the Red exhibit this kind of thing, even modestly? I was so hot on the Scarlett, but if that has a CMOS chip.. probably not too much. cheers all
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LOL...................... I dumped my HV20 after similar experiences!

Please post some more SD9 clips. What editor are you using?

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JohnG
 
I keep asking this and wonder if someone with a SD9 had the same experience as me.

Shooting greens in 24p. Oversaturated and yellow/blue look. Even WB and post didn't help.

anyone?
 
David S. said:
I keep asking this and wonder if someone with a SD9 had the same experience as me.

Shooting greens in 24p. Oversaturated and yellow/blue look. Even WB and post didn't help.

anyone?
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Not me....which is why I asked if you were shooting indoors before.


Everything looks great from what I'm doing. It's all been outdoors but I'm very happy with it.

I can put up another clip when I get home if you like. Shot in a shaded backyard with plenty of green deciduous foliage.


Did your golf courses have kentucky blue grass on them by any chance? :D
 
Justyn said:
Kid,


Did you see this: http://www.electriccowtheater.com/SCC/lakeSCC.mov
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I could definitely justify my meager sd9 purchase by building one of those and using it for more than a helmet cam :D

Is that yours? Impressive!


edit: just saw your county fair clip

Between that and what I've shot with mine, I honestly don't see anything in the greens that jumps out at me as unusable. David: do you still have any of the clips that soured you on the colors?
 
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Thanks Kid... Yes I'm co-owner of the chopper. I got a great pilot to handle the buidling, maintenance and flying the thing. Been quite a fun ride so far.. and if you ever come to FLorida or if you need some aerial of you riding your bike then that would be awesome. I'd love to do some tracking following a mountain biker through the woods.. would be awesome.


I haven't seen too much that makes me hate the way they handle grass or greeens in my footage. Looks more saturated than the HV20 stuff, but I think that's a good thing.


KID.. that stuff looks great and the greens look really acceptable to me. Almost too bright and colorful but thats what I love about this little cam. Cheers for sharing.
 
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yofee said:
I was thinking 50i vs 60i like PAL vs NTSC. If I want to have a second cam to match up the future HPX170 like the small SD9, is it better with a 50i or 60i thus more resolution and less compression...?

Or does it matter? I know Barry wrote something about this on another forum, but I can´t find it.

And... I´m planning to do PAL and NTSC SD DVD of the same project so what is the best thing to do. Convert NTSC to PAL or PAL to NTSC, 50i to 60i or 60i to 50i?
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Maybe I posted this wrong the first time, maybe someone here can answer...
 
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