GH4 GH4 favorite shooting settings?

bruceallen

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I've got my GH4 (and a second one just arrived at home) and will be playing with different shooting settings this weekend with some friends.

We might not post anything here (I'm done with the old "post a test and get criticized" thing) but depending on results (and how friends feel), we may share some stuff at some point. Sorry but don't want to over-promise.

Anyway, do you guys have any favorite setups so far? I can at least provide good feedback on how those setups compare when I test them.

I'm assuming that the footage that will go through a good post pipeline - eg Resolve - and have at the very least a 3D LUT applied. Add Neat Video if necessary (if less NR in camera + Neat Video gives a better result than more NR in camera, let's do it). Plus de-banding to get rid of 8-bit issues if necessary (S_deband) etc. I would be nice to have as fast a pipeline as possible though - so if Neat Video and de-banding can be avoided, awesome.

Anyone shooting with IR cut filters? Anyone shooting 3200K with a CTB filter and WB at 5000K? Anyone doing low-con, digi-con, etc?

What is the best setup for:
a) sunny daylight, uncontrolled contrast
b) cloudy daylight, uncontrolled contrast
c) daylight, controlled contrast (studio with HMI / daylight LED)
d) tungsten, uncontrolled contrast (eg filming an event)
e) tungsten, controlled contrast (studio with tungsten / tungsten LED)
f) mixed light, low light (eg nighttime street shooting)

One more thing to add into the mix - the desired goal:
a) match Alexa
b) match Dragon
c) match Sony F55
d) match Canon DSLR video
e) match Canon C100/C300/C500
f) FLATTERING - match motion picture film (Kodak or Fuji)
g) FLATTERING - match a good DSLR still (Nikon, Canon, Fuji, Hasselblad, Leica with good processing)
h) CORRECT - get a scientifically-correct result (which can then go through ACES or be used for VFX)

Currently, playing with the various color profiles, I'm noticing some odd stuff in the highlights. It's definitely more apparent in the monitor than the final image but I notice sometimes that if I'm filming a gradient of something desaturated, there will be a sudden band of yellow introduced at a certain luma point.

I'm not sure whether this is an inherent sensor issue (and I just should avoid placing any key color detail in that exposure range and treat it as "highlight safety") or some kind of color matrixing issue that a combo of picture profiles and WB settings can fix. Thoughts?

Overall though, this is an awesome camera.

Bruce Allen
www.boacinema.com
 
I have nothing to add yet (my GH4 arrives on Monday) but will definitely be interested in this thread. Thanks for starting it, Bruce!
 
So far I'm liking the Cinema-D profile set to -4, -4, -5, -4, +0 and the Highlights/Shadows curve set to anti-S for flatness. I shot a sunset time lapse using that profile with the 1080 60p 200Mbps All-I mode and I was able to push & pull that image way more than I could have with my GH3. I'm seeing more dynamic range, more detail, and more color information with this GH4.
 
So far I'm liking the Cinema-D profile set to -4, -4, -5, -4, +0 and the Highlights/Shadows curve set to anti-S for flatness. I shot a sunset time lapse using that profile with the 1080 60p 200Mbps All-I mode and I was able to push & pull that image way more than I could have with my GH3. I'm seeing more dynamic range, more detail, and more color information with this GH4.
Why don't you upload a quick vimeo or youtube so we can take a look? Some straight footage and then your graded image.
 
Ordered mine. Not going to arrive till next week. Eoshd did an extensive review/write up on the camera that got me convinced.
 
I'll say this, the 1080 modes on the Gh4 are moire hell. My AX100 in 1080/60 destroys the Gh4's 1080/60 no matter what bit rate you use. The variable frame rate mode is as soft as a stock 5dMk3. The 1080 modes on the Gh4 are useable but watch out for patterns that will exhibit moire and aliasing. The 4K out of the Gh4 is clean and near artifact clean.
 
I'll say this, the 1080 modes on the Gh4 are moire hell. My AX100 in 1080/60 destroys the Gh4's 1080/60 no matter what bit rate you use. The variable frame rate mode is as soft as a stock 5dMk3. The 1080 modes on the Gh4 are useable but watch out for patterns that will exhibit moire and aliasing. The 4K out of the Gh4 is clean and near artifact clean.

Do you have examples?
I have tried to justify buying the AX100 instead because I would love to have a camcorder again but I have watched every single ax100 clip on youtube and vimeo without finding a single one that even come close to those nice Hong Kong videos with the GH4.

(IMO of course)
 
I'd love some help with settings. Right now, even at ISO 400, any part of the frame that's dark is super noisy. I've tried cinelike V and cinelike D, with the same results. Any thoughts as to why? 800 and 1600 are worse, of course. I'm in all manual mode, creative movie mode.
 
I'm rendering out a new comparison of the 4K cameras (BMC4K, AX100, GH4) with shots from the War Bird museum. Once uploaded I will post results and more thoughts.
 
I'll say this, the 1080 modes on the Gh4 are moire hell. My AX100 in 1080/60 destroys the Gh4's 1080/60 no matter what bit rate you use. The variable frame rate mode is as soft as a stock 5dMk3. The 1080 modes on the Gh4 are useable but watch out for patterns that will exhibit moire and aliasing. The 4K out of the Gh4 is clean and near artifact clean.
Is the GH4 in 1080p worse than the GH3 in regards to moire?
 
Is the GH4 in 1080p worse than the GH3 in regards to moire?
Panasonic's website boasts: "exceptional moiré suppression" http://shop.panasonic.com/shop/model/DMC-GH4KBODY
But maybe that only applies to 4k shooting because earlier dustylense wrote: "The 1080 modes on the Gh4 are useable but watch out for patterns that will exhibit moire and aliasing. The 4K out of the Gh4 is clean and near artifact clean."
 
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So far I'm liking the Cinema-D profile set to -4, -4, -5, -4, +0 and the Highlights/Shadows curve set to anti-S for flatness. I shot a sunset time lapse using that profile with the 1080 60p 200Mbps All-I mode and I was able to push & pull that image way more than I could have with my GH3. I'm seeing more dynamic range, more detail, and more color information with this GH4.

Went all -5s but I think that the -4s (except for sharpness) are working out better. Which is the 'anti-S' Highlight Shadow setting?
 
Here is the Gh4 up against the AX100 and BMC4K.

All three cameras have their strengths and weakness. The Gh4 is fun to work with though. Lots of controls at your fingertips when you set up the custom functions.

Watch in 2160p but I find watching 4K stuff on Youtube better in 1440P as my monitor is 2500 pixels and the stream flows better.

Vimeo link so you can download the file:
https://vimeo.com/93044605

Shot on three separate days per camera.

BMC4K shot in film mode Prores. Sigma 17-55
AX100 shot using standard profile in XAVC-S
Gh4 shot with 4K 100 Mbit using Cine D profile with sharpness at -3 and contrast minus 3, everything else zeroed. Lumix 12-35mm

All cameras set to 5600K then Color corrected in FCPX. AX100 de-sharpened in post (its the sharpest of them all).
 
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Here is the Gh4 up against the AX100 and BMC4K.

All three cameras have their strengths and weakness. The Gh4 is fun to work with though. Lots of controls at your fingertips when you set up the custom functions.

Watch in 2160p but I find watching 4K stuff on Youtube better in 1440P as my monitor is 2500 pixels and the stream flows better.

Shot on three separate days per camera.

BMC4K shot in film mode Prores. Sigma 17-55
AX100 shot using standard profile in XAVC-S
Gh4 shot with 4K 100 Mbit using Cine D profile with sharpness at -3 and contrast minus 3, everything else zeroed. Lumix 12-35mm

All cameras set to 5600K then Color corrected in FCPX. AX100 resharpened in post (its the sharpest of them all).

Would you be able to post your comparison on Vimeo in the GH4 user group or channel so we can download and see the original? I'd like to see how the GH4 is destroyed and not under YouTube compression and at 720p. Thank you!
 
Would you be able to post your comparison on Vimeo in the GH4 user group or channel so we can download and see the original? I'd like to see how the GH4 is destroyed and not under YouTube compression and at 720p. Thank you!
I just did, updating the post now.
 
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