GH2 official discussion thread

Some Japan GH2 owners could shoot some patterns with GH2 and 7d/5d/60d/550d to reveal moire and aliasing improvements on GH2, It would be very interesting
 
For those interested in stills too, seems that there is nothing in it noise wise between any of the new generation aps-c sensor, especially Canon 60d vs GH2, OK, may be subtle differences but ahead, I dont think so. Panasonic have really done the business with this sensor.

http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/canoneos60d/page11.asp

Actually that's pretty darn good, see the difference between the G2 and the GH2, the G2 would be close to what the GH1 is. I'm going to be very happy with this camera even as a stills camera.

Some Japan GH2 owners could shoot some patterns with GH2 and 7d/5d/60d/550d to reveal moire and aliasing improvements on GH2, It would be very interesting

Would be more useful compared to the GH1 don't ya think? Moire is definitely going to be better than all the Canons no doubt, the GH1 already beats them in that category
 
Has anyone captured to the HDMI port of a recorder yet guys? I was wondering whether this has been attempted
 
Would be more useful compared to the GH1 don't ya think? Moire is definitely going to be better than all the Canons no doubt, the GH1 already beats them in that category
Yes, you're right.
I meant aliasing to, and aliasing is same bad on GH1 as on Canon DSLR's. From GH2 videos on youtube and vimeo, I saw some "danger" city shot's there was some aliasing but much less than on canons. And only comparition between those DSLR's can reveal true difference
 
Hey, what do you expect from iso 3200? The gh1 doesn´t even have it. And take a look at native iso 1600 clips shot by the gh1 at similar conditions. - A japanese-style wedding in 60i: http://vimeo.com/16763866


1600-3200 is overkill in terms of video shooting and the noise from the sample is not good but can be corrected I suppose....want more light? Use faster lenses.

from all the downloaded raw footage of GH2 ive seen in general really just does not look as good as a hacked GH1s footage .
Im sure better than a pre hacked one though.

Its clear that panasonic are good at making hardware and less so in the software as the GH2 seems to have the same issues that riddled the prehacked GH1.

But I guess if native 24p's what you want...then at least its stable for that
 
Hey, what do you expect from iso 3200? The gh1 doesn´t even have it. And take a look at native iso 1600 clips shot by the gh1 at similar conditions
Come on, guys, don't you read what Panasonic does? I really can't believe... Pansaonic is playing with ISO.

First it did with G2. In theory it had higher ISO available than G1. Simple cheating. I have both. ISO at one camera means different ISO on another. The trick is - in the same light conditions, G2 will use higher ISO than G1 and achieve the same exposure.

Now we already know - GH2 will do the same against GH1!
http://www.dxomark.com/index.php/en...nglet)/0/(brand)/Panasonic/(brand2)/Panasonic
(see ISO sensitivity tab)

PRODUCER ISO <> REAL ISO

GH1
400 <> 591
800 <> 1 126
1 600 <> 2 154
3 200 <> 4 176

GH2
400 <> 413
800 <> 817
1 600 <> 1 538
3 200 <> 2 989

Simply, there is NO SENSE to compare ISO, without looking at aperture and shutter speed.
When all 3 parameters are exactly the same - "new" model will give underexposed picture, because "old" model was oversensitive, and "new" one is cheated.

Does it mean GH2 is bad camera or there is no improvement? No. But for sure it isn't as good as you believe just looking at ISO.
 
I asume the 24p mode requires no pulldown in post. has this been confirmed.

Has anyone had any issues with the GH2 in Apple's log and transfer?

thanks in advance
John
 
Come on, guys, don't you read what Panasonic does? I really can't believe... Pansaonic is playing with ISO.

First it did with G2. In theory it had higher ISO available than G1. Simple cheating. I have both. ISO at one camera means different ISO on another. The trick is - in the same light conditions, G2 will use higher ISO than G1 and achieve the same exposure.

Now we already know - GH2 will do the same against GH1!
http://www.dxomark.com/index.php/en/Camera-Sensor/Compare-sensors/(appareil1)/630%7C0/(appareil2)/677%7C0/(onglet)/0/(brand)/Panasonic/(brand2)/Panasonic
(see ISO sensitivity tab)

PRODUCER ISO <> REAL ISO

GH1
400 <> 591
800 <> 1 126
1 600 <> 2 154
3 200 <> 4 176

GH2
400 <> 413
800 <> 817
1 600 <> 1 538
3 200 <> 2 989

Simply, there is NO SENSE to compare ISO, without looking at aperture and shutter speed.
When all 3 parameters are exactly the same - "new" model will give underexposed picture, because "old" model was oversensitive, and "new" one is cheated.

Does it mean GH2 is bad camera or there is no improvement? No. But for sure it isn't as good as you believe just looking at ISO.


Whatever they did with iso, it doesnt matter, have you seen this, looks to be the same? those guys at dxo are a bunch of knowbodies out to sell their software, if you believe them the new 16mp d7k has better dr than ff eos5dmk2, the guys are a joke and using technical XXXX to baffle everyone. They want you, Canon, Nikon, Pentax, Sony to buy there raw s/w, I dont think Panasonic could give a XXXX, so that's how they are playing it. Apparently GH1 has worse high iso than GH2, well even if the old 1600 was near iso2000, GH2 is beating the crap out of it, especially with the absence of any banding.

Check this out, I see no difference in exposure, zilch? but stills we are night and day between GH1 and GH2 and I love GH1 to bits, but the GH2 is a step-up, big stepup in iso performance.

http://www.youtube.com/user/TKYSSTD2#p/a/u/1/9DTcH92MgdY
 
I'm on a mac and don't like the log and transfer routine at all; you can bypass it altogether by using an app called rewrap2m4v, it is very fast and does nothing but strip the mts files of their extra stuff and just leave behind the original mp4 file that was there. Unless I want to play a clip back on the TV I don't even bother saving the mts files anymore, the m4v files are the same content and any program will read them. And yes they're true 24p, no pulldown required
 
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