GH2 Fanboys (& Girls) why wouldn't I buy a Canon 60D?

Jester2138 said:
The first time I put the GH2 video up next to the 7D video I thought I had totally messed up the 7D and it was slightly out of focus on every shot. Turns out the GH2 is just that much sharper. Besides, even if you prefer soft HD to sharp HD, it's possible to soften the GH2 but impossible to sharpen the Canons. On another note, I think the Hollywood folks shooting on RED and 35mm would disagree with you on your point that "too much detail and it starts to look more like video."
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You have a very good point with the fact that you can soften the GH2, but can't sharpen the Canons... It's true and after reading all of this GH2 glory, I would probably go for the GH2 if I have to buy a camera now.
However, I went with the 60D because it is as good as the 7D, and I fell in love with the youtube clips I saw made with that camera from the start.
I thought 'holy **** I want that look'.

I watched comparisons with the Nikon D7000 and it didnt beat the Canons, so I erased it of the list. Same with the Sony A55. Only thing left at that time was GH-1 and I hated its small shape and was not blown away by the footage either. Then, naively (love makes blind), I assumed the GH2 would not be a real thread to the Canons as well.

As it turns out now, I was wrong as the GH2 definitely is the better camera.
Still, the narative footage I've seen from the 7D blows me away anytime and approaches the look I see when I watch a Hollywood movie on my computer. That is why I bought it in the first place, and I didnt have that feeling yet with the GH2 when it comes to that.

However, when I see GH2 footage of landscapes and buildings, it amazes me as well. What a detail...
 
Chadfish said:
Yes I'm aware of that mode now, but how does the 720p/30 mode look? OK?
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I'm not sure where to look for it, but somewhere on Vimeo I saw a comparison test of the 1080 30p on the 7D vs the 720 30p on the GH2. the GH2 was noticeably sharper. Any chart tests I've seen of the 7D's 1080 showq it does not resolve anything more than 720p. Perhaps less. Let me see if I can find the test to link it...

And I sold my 7D, and have been fruitlessly trying to buy a GH2 to go along with the lenses and accessories I already have for it...
 
Stab, I'm sure your canon is a fine piece of gear, and you shouldn't think you made a mistake buying one. There's always going to be something a little better. If we only had as much money as we have lust for gear...
 
DVXSanDiego said:
I'm not sure where to look for it, but somewhere on Vimeo I saw a comparison test of the 1080 30p on the 7D vs the 720 30p on the GH2. the GH2 was noticeably sharper. Any chart tests I've seen of the 7D's 1080 showq it does not resolve anything more than 720p. Perhaps less. Let me see if I can find the test to link it...

And I sold my 7D, and have been fruitlessly trying to buy a GH2 to go along with the lenses and accessories I already have for it...
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That was by Mark, who posts on Dvxuser. Here's his link:

http://vimeo.com/18286587

Quite remarkable
 
Sage said:
That was by Mark, who posts on Dvxuser. Here's his link:

http://vimeo.com/18286587

Quite remarkable
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Yep - that is exactly the clip I referred to. It was part of the decision process to sell my 7D.
The nice thing about the GH2 is that even if Canon does update the 5D/7D to improve video function, I've only got $1,500 invested in the GH2. I have room for both a GH2 and a 5D MK3 or 8D in my kit.
 
hey Chad, it's Jon :)

Get a gh2, no question. That is of course if you're 100% decided on delving into the dslr game. If you aren't in a hurry, you could wait for what canon will be coming out with, rumor has it it's going to be pretty good. Hopefully some proper audio circuitry, and I know you're an audio guy. But if you had to pick something now, as this entire thread is telling you, the gh2 is just fantastic.

this should clear things up: http://www.eoshd.com/content/459-First-look-Panasonic-GH2-versus-Canon-60D

barely even comparable!

As a fellow ex1(r) user that also does not own a dslr, take this as the most unbiased and closest-to-home opinion, hehe
 
Hey John! Yes I've seen that. I think I may have got it from you a while ago. I'm not too happy about the GH2 being AGC all the time, but I do like that you can change the level of AGC. I'm not in a hurry, mostly due to being poor. When my ship comes in I'm heading straight for a GH2, unless something better reveals itself first.
 
This is such a refershing thread... No ranting or such and maybe its cause it was set up so nicely at the beginning... There are certain sides to everything. For one thing I do miss the layout of the 7D and the 5D.. The menus just make a lot more sense than the GH2, and also I really prefer them as stills cameras, BUT, that being said I'm a video guy and the Gh2 serves all of the purposes.... The other big caveat with the Canons is the limited shooting time and also the overheating issue. I know it's better with faster cards but I've made every one of them overheat... Maybe it's just I"m too hot and passionate.. who knows...

Anyway, it's a good time to see all of this and isn't it fascinating how now the Panasonic cameras are the sharp ones... HMMM.. That used to be the slag against the HVX/HMC and the like... It's good for competition and I for one would buy a 5D mark 3 if it solved some issues and offers up some new goodies... There's some interesting options coming out and for all of us I think the days of paying 15k for a working camera are long gone.... Atleast in prudent terms...
 
Why do Canon D5 owners act like high class hookers when talking to Panasonic users? I was talking to a D5 owner today and she did not want to engage in a comparison with the GH2. "You have a fun camera but I have a professional one" Who in the Hell talks like that?
 
I own a GH1, GH2, T2i, and a 5Dmkii, as well as a EX1, EX3, and AF100 at work. As a side note I have had absolutely no problem mixing the T2i and the EX1/EX3. I had to do a little bit of color work in post to match them, but it was no problem. Before we purchased our AF100 I would bring in my T2i for shoots that we wanted some shallow dof and they matched fine.

Each has it's strengths and weaknesses. Personally, for narrative work, I prefer the Canons, especially the 5D. I'm not biased towards Canon, in fact I owned the GH1 for a year before I got any other DSLR and the DVX100b is possibly my favorite camera. But I prefer the color rendition, the highlight roll off, and the skin tones of the Canons (especially the 5D) versus the GH cameras. I have no experience with the 60D so I cannot vouch for it, but from my understanding the video is very similar to the T2i and 7D, and they are both great cameras.

No matter which camera you choose you will end up with a really good camera. I just shot a music video on the GH2 and the musician was in love with the look of it. The main reason I chose the GH2 for that shoot was because part of the apartment we were filming in was a brick wall and I did not want to risk it with the Canons.

I guess it also depends on what you are filming. If you are shooting something where you can't get another take (interviews, documentaries, etc.) then the GH2 is the much safer bet (less chance of getting moire as well as not AS shallow dof as the canons so a much better bet that you will nail your focus).

Good luck with choosing your camera.
 
So the GH2 doesn't get as shallow DOF as the canons? Can one still get a decent amount? That's really the main reason I'm looking at DSLR.
 
Oh yea you can definitely get a good amount. Many people even think the 5D is overkill. The GH2 and 60D are pretty similar in terms of dof.

Edit: And if you need really shallow dof with the GH2, people seem to love the f/0.95 25mm which will get you plenty of shallow dof.
 
I think the DOF with a 50mm F1.4 lens is rather amazing on the GH regardless of price. I believe the faster lenses can give even better DOF but honestly it getting towards over kill!
 
Hsving an AF100 and a 7D myself, which is the two sizes in question, yep, they get quite similar results. I had been worried, but now, I am not :) I use a lot of F1.4 lens and I have more shallow DoF than I could ever need.
 
Rick Burnett said:
Hsving an AF100 and a 7D myself, which is the two sizes in question, yep, they get quite similar results. I had been worried, but now, I am not :) I use a lot of F1.4 lens and I have more shallow DoF than I could ever need.
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Agreed, after shooting with my 50/1.4 a few times now, it's really almost too much as it is. I don't think it would be realistically manageable if it were any more shallow.

So no problems here with shallow DOF on my GH2.
 
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