Gh1 audio

The GH1 has audio and records stereo, the monitor headphone reference was for the Zoom H4 and not the camera.
 
Car3o said:
I'm not sure we're on the same page. You want to attach the H4n/H4 to the talent?
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No we're not on the same page:happy:! I had suggested that the Zoom could be used in place of a radio mic in certain situations and therefore the idea of a sound man desperately checking levels whilst being trailed behind the actor/interviewee came to mind.

I'll get my coat.
 
but if you have no budget attaching a H2 to the talent could be an option. You'd have to check levels before and after the shot but you wouldn't have to worry about rf interference. Olympus make an even smaller recorder and there are some others. I think I'm gonna forget wireless altogether and try this instead
 
but if you have no budget attaching a H2 to the talent could be an option. You'd have to check levels before and after the shot but you wouldn't have to worry about rf interference. Olympus make an even smaller recorder and there are some others. I think I'm gonna forget wireless altogether and try this instead
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If you really want to go down this route, you might want to look at a different recorder. I've got an H2, which I've tried this out on and it works ok. One problem with it is, that using it with external mics tends to cause a bit of background hiss, which I've not been able to remove. If you search around it's well documented for this recorder. The other thing is once you've checked your levels you'll need to lock the recorder buttons, just incase the record stop button gets accidentally knocked. This works on the H2, but I don't think it's particularly fail safe.

Like Car3o says, you'll be taking a shortcut, which can sometimes cause problems.
 
I'll just stick with the H4n and the rode on a boom and hire some sennheiser G2s at weekend rates when I need them.
 
Either way...the camera doesn't have a useful on camera mic or mic input more than consumer camcorder. However, I can't imagine anyone using this camera in a tight production deadline requiring XDCAM, DVCProHD, or AVC Intra output. This is a camera when you are more concerned with the image than the process. In that case, an external recorded is fine. If you can afford $1500 for the camera plus sticks, lenses, etc. the cost of an H4n or DR-100 shouldn't break the bank.
 
AdrianF said:
Yes you can. The only problem is that, in this situation, the on camera talent would have to have a sound man permanently attached to them, which could be a real problem for the script writers.
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Screw them. Have you noticed that in any movie-about-movies which feature a sound guy, they ALWAYS die/get fired first? I was so pissed off when I went to see King Kong.

:badputer:
 
Eddy Robinson said:
Screw them. Have you noticed that in any movie-about-movies which feature a sound guy, they ALWAYS die/get fired first? I was so pissed off when I went to see King Kong.
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Just theater mimicking life? :)

When the audio is being recorded on the talent you aren't monitoring it. So that is a risk many production environments won't accept.

However, I've seen many event videographers never wear a headphone. In that case, it is the same.
 
AdrianF said:
One problem with (Zoom Hxx) is, that using it with external mics tends to cause a bit of background hiss, which I've not been able to remove. If you search around it's well documented for this recorder.
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It's not uncommon on cheaper phantom-powered mic inputs, even on much more expensive recorders like the Tascam P2. I gather it's been improved on the newer model, but haven't got one to test.

If the hiss is consistent, it's relatively easy to remove it in post, using noise fingerprint reduction in a tool like Adobe Audition. Be careful not to overdo it though, or you'll get something that sounds like it was recorded inside a bathtub.
 
DavidNJ said:
When the audio is being recorded on the talent you aren't monitoring it. So that is a risk many production environments won't accept.
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Quite. I've done the like occasionally though; if you point out that doing so and verifying the quality afterwards will take less production time than the alternative, that's usually a winning argument.

An example of this would be a wide shot which must take place next to a running truck, where the spark gap of a the engine creates wide-frequency electrical noise which will swamp any wireless signal.
 
Eddy Robinson said:
If the hiss is consistent, it's relatively easy to remove it in post, using noise fingerprint reduction in a tool like Adobe Audition. Be careful not to overdo it though, or you'll get something that sounds like it was recorded inside a bathtub.
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While this works, it is next to impossible to avoid removing some of the actual sound you want. Audition has a 'keep noise' radio button in noise removal to hear what you are losing. To lose the noise of of the actual voice is gone also.

A quite mic amp is far and away the best solution. I am still using my Korg MR-1s. Although the Editrol R4 with 4 channel recording is nice.

The Editrol has all sorts of low cut filters and graphic equalizers. However, I'm pretty sure they are applied after the signal is digitized. In that case, processing in Audition or the equivalent seems the way to go.
 
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