Fuji X-T3 released
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puredrifting
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I don't own the lenses you highlighted SJX, I only have the XF 18-55 f/2.8-4.0 OIS, which is a wonderful small and light zoom with excellent image quality and good build and the XF 16mm f/1.4 WR, which is one of their higher end wide primes, which is also excellent although I really wish it had OIS for video.
You should join the Fujifilm Facebook Group, there is a hundred times more activity over there than there is here about the X-T3 although a lot of it is still hobbyist oriented. You'd get a lot more feedback about using the specific lenses you posted about.
I assume the Fuji lineup is like every other camera manufacturer as far as lens lines. The XF lenses are better and higher end than the inexpensive Fujis you posted. Better build, faster AF and apertures. It's no different than Canon, my EF S 18-135 f/3.5-5.6 IS USM is a piece of junk compared to my EF 24-105mm f/4.0 IS II USM. Glass is one area where you still get what you paid for. If you buy cheap, chances are you'll use it, become frustrated with it, sell it at a considerable loss, then will buy the good stuff. So why not cut out the middle man and just buy the good stuff?
You should join the Fujifilm Facebook Group, there is a hundred times more activity over there than there is here about the X-T3 although a lot of it is still hobbyist oriented. You'd get a lot more feedback about using the specific lenses you posted about.
I assume the Fuji lineup is like every other camera manufacturer as far as lens lines. The XF lenses are better and higher end than the inexpensive Fujis you posted. Better build, faster AF and apertures. It's no different than Canon, my EF S 18-135 f/3.5-5.6 IS USM is a piece of junk compared to my EF 24-105mm f/4.0 IS II USM. Glass is one area where you still get what you paid for. If you buy cheap, chances are you'll use it, become frustrated with it, sell it at a considerable loss, then will buy the good stuff. So why not cut out the middle man and just buy the good stuff?
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Just got the email from B&H that the new Angelbird SD cards that are specifically designed to work with the X-T3 are available.
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/prod...p_xt3_064sdv60x2_match_pack_for_fujifilm.html
The price for these is what caught my attention at $109 for 2x 64GB cards, which is close to half what I was paying for Sandisk's top tier card. The Angelbirds are slower, but are still V60 and fall within the range that Fuji says will work with the X-T3 in 4k/400mbps. I pulled the trigger and they should be here tomorrow. Will report back and here's to hoping these work with no issues because the pricing is great.
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/prod...p_xt3_064sdv60x2_match_pack_for_fujifilm.html
The price for these is what caught my attention at $109 for 2x 64GB cards, which is close to half what I was paying for Sandisk's top tier card. The Angelbirds are slower, but are still V60 and fall within the range that Fuji says will work with the X-T3 in 4k/400mbps. I pulled the trigger and they should be here tomorrow. Will report back and here's to hoping these work with no issues because the pricing is great.
Carlos Morillo
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I know they aren't the same cards but I've been using the Angelbird matchpack for the eva1 and they work great! Been shooting with them for months, no hitches.
Great news. Been using it @400mbps?
puredrifting
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Hmm...the ProGrade V60 cards I have been using (two 128GB V60s) cost less than the AngelBirds and are available now. Two of the 256GB AngelBirds are $389.99 on special order, two of the ProGrade V60s are $360.00. If you are going to shoot 400 Mbps, you really need the 256GB cards. 400Mbps on my 128s only give me 40 minutes per card. So two 256s would give you 160 minutes of the 400Mbps? I shoot 200Mbps because I usually don't need the absolute best quality possible but it's nice to have the option if you do end up shooting something really special.
Carlos Morillo
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Yep 400mbps, no issues to report.
scorsesefan
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Just a fyi for those shooting 200mbps. I tried one of my old Sandisk Extreme Pro 95MB/s U3 cards in the X-T3 and it worked fine in 4K 23.98 and 60fps 200mbps long GOP. Just a quick test (5 or so minutes) though...
puredrifting
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Good to know. That may come in handy for our Florida shoot, I have to roll for many hours and already own a few of these in 256GB size.
puredrifting
Major Contributor
You need V60 or V90 name brand cards. ProGrade Digital have been working great for me and the AngelBirds are good but a few bucks more. Are you really going to shoot a lot at 400Mbps? I was going to, then shot some tests at both 200Mbps and 400Mbps and as per usual with higher end cameras, little visual difference between 200Mbps and 400Mbps,
all you are doing is wasting space for most applications. I would shoot 400Mbps for once in a lifetime special shoots, green screen but little else. Takes up a lot more drive space for storage and editing RAID as well for little appreciable improvement in image.
NorBro
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You don't need V90. You probably don't even need V60 for 400mbps.
My educated guess is that when the manual was written V30 cards hovered around 30-40MB and it was necessary to note V60.
Today, you'll find V30 cards up to 90MB. Don't make a purchase based on my post, but I'm assuming these cheap SanDisk cards will easily do the trick:
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/prod...xxy_064g_gn4in_extremepro_sdxc_64gb_card.html
400mbps is not very high. Just high for consumers/prosumers who may be used to 100mbps in cameras.
These high-end cards are made for Blackmagic cameras (not specifically) with whopping speeds like 1886mbps for DCI 4K/60p.
If you don't require sustainability (like not dropping frames in a 25 minute interview), you can get away with far less (like random b-roll).
My educated guess is that when the manual was written V30 cards hovered around 30-40MB and it was necessary to note V60.
Today, you'll find V30 cards up to 90MB. Don't make a purchase based on my post, but I'm assuming these cheap SanDisk cards will easily do the trick:
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/prod...xxy_064g_gn4in_extremepro_sdxc_64gb_card.html
400mbps is not very high. Just high for consumers/prosumers who may be used to 100mbps in cameras.
These high-end cards are made for Blackmagic cameras (not specifically) with whopping speeds like 1886mbps for DCI 4K/60p.
If you don't require sustainability (like not dropping frames in a 25 minute interview), you can get away with far less (like random b-roll).
I just popped one of these cards in to check (usually lives in my X100) and recorded 5 minutes of a wall with DCI 17:9 / 23.98 / 400mb. No reported issues with dropped frames or playback.
Since you already own the cards, I think they'd be worth further tests but looks good to me.
scorsesefan
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Theoretically, you should only need a card that has a minimum write speed of 50MB/s if 1 byte = 8 bits (50×8) to shoot 400mbps.
NorBro
Major Contributor
People don't really like math. A few of us have mentioned this over the threads (coincidentally, I mentioned this to you in post #646), but it's not really clicking...400mbps is daunting, lol.
Also doesn't mean EVERY card over 50MB/s will work, but it's not necessary to waste money on some of these other options.
Also doesn't mean EVERY card over 50MB/s will work, but it's not necessary to waste money on some of these other options.
scorsesefan
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puredrifting
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Testing that SanDisk card right now, I have several for my C200. I'm going to do a 30 minute clip at 200Mbps H265, then a 400Mbps. I'll report back.
*Edit, just remembered, the X-T3 only lets you do 20 minute clips in 4K 60p. So I'll do a couple of 4K 60p, then a 30 minute 4K 23.98fps.
scorsesefan
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Thanks. This should be helpful. Do you have any Sandisk Extreme pro 95MB/s to test?
scorsesefan
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Steve Oakley did some tests with the X-T3 and a few different mics: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rXGHcfB4MGQ With the G3 straight into the camera it's usable but the noise floor seems a little bit too high to my ears.