Fuji is making P2 cards

hmm, i guess P2 isnt all that "outdated" after all huh?

I HOPE it pans out, cheaper cards + higher capacity = greatness.
 
Barry_Green said:
Just found a press release on the Panasonic Japan website, which lists a number of new "P2 Partners". Most significant one may be that Fuji is going to start manufacturing P2 cards in Spring 2008.

These will be officially licensed, guaranteed-compatible cards.

Hopefully this will lead to some price competition as well as alleviate the shortages! :thumbsup:

https://eww.pavc.panasonic.co.jp/pro-av/sales_o/news_info/news07/07_012.html
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Wow! That is very exciting. Imagine 64GB cards in full supply. Imagine them at a cheaper price.

Good stuff!

Dan
 
Great news.
I doubt we'll see any massive price drops - no more than we would have seen given time - but a lack of supply is definitely a problem that needed addressing.
:thumbsup:

Its about time someone else jumped on the P2 bandwagon.

I wonder, is this the last nail in the coffin for Hoodman's planned 'H2' cards?
They've been pushed off a bit it seems...and I wonder now with this second (and huge) supplier entering the market in the spring of 08...how much room will there be for a small third party P2 compatible card that may not be 'officially licensed, guaranteed-compatible'?

Then again...maybe there is room for some price competition.
Either way - its all good news for the end users.
:)
 
Luis Caffesse said:
Its about time someone else jumped on the P2 bandwagon.
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I'm sure the impending announcement about the BBC buying in probably helped push their hands a bit. In Aus the claim was that over 80% of tapeless broadcast purchases have been P2. 2008 should be a major year for broadcasters to get off their duffs and convert, too, because of the 2008 Olympics, the election year, and the 2009 transition date for DTV.

I wonder, is this the last nail in the coffin for Hoodman's planned 'H2' cards?
They've been pushed off a bit it seems...and I wonder now with this second (and huge) supplier entering the market in the spring of 08...how much room will there be for a small third party P2 compatible card that may not be 'officially licensed, guaranteed-compatible cards'?
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Who knows... there will always be a market for lower-priced cards, so if they could maintain that intended 20% to 30% price advantage they talked about, that would give them some share of the market. The market is also getting much bigger much faster than anticipated; Panasonic's claiming over 610 stations with over 60,000 units deployed as of August; we've had four months since then so who knows how high the actual number is. Even so, there's still room for major networks like ABC and NBC to make their decision, and either one of those guys could end up ordering thousands of cameras and tens of thousands of cards.
 
I guess you're right - if the market is growing at that sort of rate then their should be enough room for all kinds of suppliers.

Of course networks like NBC and ABC wouldn't buy into a third party product that wasn't officially licensed... but Hoodman could still find its niche with individual users (especially if they can deliver on a 20-30% price difference).

By the way - I'm saying all this assuming the Hoodman cards were never claimed to be fully licensed and guaranteed compatible..etc etc.
(Yes, yes I know what happens when you assume)
:)
 
I asked Panasonic about Hoodman and I believe they said (at the time) that they hadn't been contacted about licensing, so I think it was going to be a reverse-engineered product. Of course, anything could have happened between then and now; maybe they're pursuing a fully-licensed implementation?

Fuji was one of the licensed manufacturers of DVCPRO tape, so this is kind of a continuation of that relationship. Maxell was also, so it'd sure be nice to see Maxell get in on some P2 card action too. I can't see this as being anything but good for us.
 
Would a licensed company be able to develop their own roadmap or would they have to stick to Panasonic's? Would Fuji be able to ramp up to the 128Gb cards sooner than Pana?

A sub $1000 128Gb card would be the sweet spot, though we are probably 2 years away from that.
 
64s are due by the middle of next year or so, so we're very close to 128s anyway. Maybe a year away. Don't know about the sub-$1000 price point though.
 
Can't believe we're talking about 64 and 128 G cards next year. Just think I've had my HVX and a 4 GB card for a year now.

Its amazing how quick its all come around.

Can't wait

Richard
 
I can feel that too Richard..!

I remeber how i got one of the first HVX in Europe in April 2006 and how i made it to organize 6 4GB P2-cards from Japan through a friends friend to keep the price low....if i imagine what i paid for them, and what a 32GB(coming sooooon!?!) will cost, i feel good and bad at the same time: bad for the price i paid, good for the fact how it developed, and how great the footage is we shot so far....!

So lets cross fingers that we talk about 128GB cards in about 1 Year...for 1000€ of course..hehe!
 
One issue I see is creating hard back up's... I'm resisting the 16gb at the moment as Blue Laser backups are too expensive.. at least with the 8gb you can burn to dual layer.. already I have about 30 hard drives of stuff laying around... and it's becoming a nightmare management situation...

I guess at least the price of hard drives are cheap.. but how reliable are they really in the long run..

Just my 2cents..

Cheers
 
You can always use 4 dual layer dvds to burn 1 32G P2 card. Winrar or other file management tools can help seperate large files into multiple smaller files.
 
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