FS7: FS7 Lenses

Bern Caughey said:
The 18-35/1.8 does not offer Image Stabilization.
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The lens itself does for sure. Or do you mean when communicating with the FS7 via the Commlite? Please elaborate; it's so important for me. Thanks.

infohou said:
I disagree. He has some special needs and wants to spend his money wisely. He has also endured some moderately snide remarks (not saying your remark was snide) gracefully.

Piotr, you sure 35mm on the long end is long enough for your intended use? Was it interviews?

Y'all have some fun Sun,
Robert
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Thanks Robert. As to your question about the Sigma's 35mm at tele: I'm not getting rid of my kit 28-135 lens, so I'm covered at the long end; it's the wide end and speed that I'm after in the other zoom I'd like to buy...

Cheers

Piotr
 
Bern Caughey said:
The 18-35/1.8 does not offer Image Stabilization.
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Bern, I gave it another read and you're right - this lens has NO image stabilization! Well, I guess this is one more reason I'm so eagerly trying to learn from you guys - the Polish "features & specs" all say it does. Doh... Back to Canon, I guess...
 
Ben Scott said:
Which makes it hard to actually discern answers. Hence sometimes you're going to need to find out these answers for yourself about what works best for your particular needs and subjects.
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And also know that there is no correct solution (apart from this cooke 15-40mm T2.0 CXX http://www.cookeoptics.com/l/s4i.html)

That is why I have..
Sony 18-250 functioning IS for grab N go daylight
Tamron 10-24 for shoulder mount stuff
14, 18 20 24 28/2 and 28PC fullframe primes that work with or without speedbooster mainly used at night or for narrative.

And all these lenses were cheap (apart from the 14 and 18 primes)
 
morgan_moore said:
And also know that there is no correct solution (apart from this cooke 15-40mm T2.0 CXX)

That is why I have..
Sony 18-250 functioning IS for grab N go daylight
Tamron 10-24 for shoulder mount stuff
14, 18 20 24 28/2 and 28PC fullframe primes that work with or without speedbooster
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Trudat.
 
morgan_moore said:
And also know that there is no correct solution (apart from this cooke 15-40mm T2.0 CXX http://www.cookeoptics.com/l/s4i.html)

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Some of us want something longer for streaming and run and gun that can do 4K. Essentially a 4K version of the 18-105. I would think Sony would give us that but perhaps they are worried about cannibalizing sales of the 28-135.

Y'all be cool,
Robert
 
OK guys - thanks for your cooperation, and sorry for being such a PITA. I think this time I'm going cheap as my budget is tight and I really need OS. So it will be: Sigma 17-50 F2.8 on the Commlite adapter.
http://www.sigmaphoto.com/lenses/standard-lenses/17-50mm-f28-ex-dc-os-hsm

Piotr

PS. Just please - if you still can bear it with me for a while - whether the Sigma 10-20mm F3.5 EX DC HSM (even cheaper - no OS) would be better; after all with so wide lenses OS is a bit less important (but then it's a full stop slower, too):
http://www.sigmaphoto.com/lenses/wide-angle-lenses/10-20mm-f35-ex-dc-hsm

Of course, in any case I'm keeping my 28-135 for tripod use in good light.
 
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moldcad said:
I understand that this Tamron doesn't extend as you zoom in? If not, a mattebox is a possibility.
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It does not extend:-)
 
moldcad said:
Sam, you're forgetting about my weak and trembling hands after the neck spine surgery :( With this handicap, I guess I prefer to reframe with a wide fast zoom than by moving around my rig, especially on a heavy tripod. And when hand-held - I do need some image stabilization that those cheap primes do not have. So as sexy as this 16mm T2.2 Samyang looks (yes-I considered it also), the Sigma 18-35 F1.8 will be a better solution for me... All I need now is some answers to my detailed questions about using it with the Commlite adapter I posted above!

Piotr
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I haven't read to the end of the thread yet, but for a fast prime with IS, check out the Canon 35mm f/2 IS USM. It's come way down in price, and with a Speedbooster ULtra it's a f/1.4 and wide, but not too wide. They go for 550.00 new. I found a store demo model for 500.00. Search that model on YouTube to see reviews and demos. It's got some vignetting at f/2 but not bad, and it clears up by f/4. I just ordered one and think it will be great for hand held.
 
moldcad said:
Several years ago when I was fit and could trust my hands, I also was finding a pleasure and satisfaction wrangling lenses on my EX1/Letus Elite combo. Even not so long ago, I used them a lot on my FS100 (now sold). Those were several vintage Canon FD stills lenses, each bought off eBay for some Eur 25 and each with its own FD-E dumb mount... I really enjoyed those mechanical lenses a lot.

Unfortunately, turning 62 years of age now and after 2 unsuccessful neck spine surgeries, this is no longer a possibility. Carrying 2 zooms with me is the most I can manage. Besides, I did try those FD lenses on my FS7 and being some 40 years old, they are too soft for UHD (even though they were good enough for HD - both on Letus, and on FS100). So now I think you've got a picture why I'm so desperately after another zoom that would cover wider FOV/low light needs my kit 28-135 cannot...

Piotr
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Is f/2.8 fast enough? You can try the Canon 16-35 f/4 IS with the speedbooster Ultra, making it an f2.8.
 
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Thanks @Chadfish, but I guess for now I'll be OK with:

- the kit Sony 28-135 F4.0 I already have for tripod use with good light
- the 17-50mm F2.8 Sigma with Commlite (both cheap enough), for hand-held and/or low-light conditions
- if I really need something faster, I still have very nice Canon FD vintage glass: 50mm F1.4 and 16mm F1.8 with dumb E adapters.

If only the Sigma talks to my FS7 through Commlite well, I'll be covered for some time with a very low investment (some USD 500 new)...

Piotr
 
Oh, BTW I see the Fotga smart adapters are priced similarly to the Commlite; any opinions on which is "better"?
 
Whoever had the patience to read till the end of this thread, one last time please help me decide between:

- the Sigma 18-35 F1.8, even though it doesn't have Image Stabilization which is important to me, and is 2x more expensive than
- the Sigma 17-50 F2.8, which does have OS, is cheaper but full stop slower

Even if I go with option 2 (for the lower price, but mainly OS) - will the Image Stabilization even work using Commlite adapter? At least in the case of the 18-35, it's listed by Sigma to fully work with their new MC-11 adapter - which the 17-50 isn't.

Decisions, decisions :)

Piotr
 
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My latest finding is that all lens compatibility charts for the Commlite only show one single lens that could be of my interest: the CANON EF-S 17-55MM F2.8 IS USM. No Sigma 18-35 F1.8, 17-50 F2.8; no Tamron 17-50 F2.8. What's more, the local Sigmaa specialist dealer cannot guarantee any of those 2 Sigmas' compatibility with Commlite - only the 18-35 with MC-11. In this situation, I'm leaning towards the Canon. What is its picture and general quality?

Piotr
 
This is exactly why I went with the Nikon version of the Signma 18-35. Turns the standard 'cinema' direction and you get an iris on the lens with the mechanical adapter which I prefer in almost all situations where IS isn't a requirement.
 
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