not sure why RED is even in this thread but as an Epic owner i can't really follow....the promise of 16+ stops DR and clean 2000iso is still not even close to realized, 2 years later....now we are asked to believe in the MOST AMAZING AWESOME WEAPON EVER! without even getting a hint of what it even is? and each step of just the upgrade is quite a bit more then the entire FS7? i won't even go into the whole 4K for 4K fiasco or the whole NAB clean room sharade....and from my own experience: yes, you can talk to RED, as long as you don't question anything or ask too many questions....Wasn't the F5 4k-gate brought on by a hack in the first place and is still a paid firmware update?
With my Red I was given new free resolutions and framerates, new colour sciences, new exposure tools like the brilliant 'Gio Scope' etc and all sorts. All on a relatively regular basis over a long period. And all free.
I'll be honest, I'm coming back to Sony after being away for a long time so they might have improved in those areas in that time. But however frustrating Red can be as a company they do foster close ties with their customers, you have access to and can talk directly to the CEO Jim (and now Jarred) whenever you like and they do try to over deliver.
I've never really heard people say that of Sony.
Of course what we'd all like is for everything to work perfectly out of the box like Arris, but at the price of an FS7
