Rick Burnett
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And it's 100Mb which is between 3 and 4 times the data as AVCHD on the FS100.
FS100 post workflow.
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cheezweezl
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i guess everyone has their priorities. to me, storage is dirt cheap. and i have seen the difference when grading. to each his own i guess.
MattDavis
Well-known member
Just to put these valid comments into focus: some of us do fast turnaround stuff, and the time to copy and back up footage, the time to ingest and transcode footage, these are all importan things. If the client wants to walk away with footage in a format that's usable, I can include the ProRes codecs for QuickTime in Win & Mac formats, and not have to deal with the support issues of dealing with MPEG4 or H.264. If you're asking me to save 30-60% of copying time for 5-8 hours of rushes per day onto USB drives in NTFS format from a Mac, I'll go with the quickest yet safest option.
5 hoursworth of rushes depicting a guy strutting up and down a stage? In ProRes HQ? Back it up AND provide a client copy? No. To each our own - no guesswork required. We love ProRes LT!
cheezweezl
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Just to put these valid comments into focus: some of us do fast turnaround stuff, and the time to copy and back up footage, the time to ingest and transcode footage, these are all importan things. If the client wants to walk away with footage in a format that's usable, I can include the ProRes codecs for QuickTime in Win & Mac formats, and not have to deal with the support issues of dealing with MPEG4 or H.264. If you're asking me to save 30-60% of copying time for 5-8 hours of rushes per day onto USB drives in NTFS format from a Mac, I'll go with the quickest yet safest option.
5 hoursworth of rushes depicting a guy strutting up and down a stage? In ProRes HQ? Back it up AND provide a client copy? No. To each our own - no guesswork required. We love ProRes LT!
totally valid. i don't deal with getting clients their rushes so i guess i missed that point.
That's why you should use an editing system that can edit these files NATIVELY if you are doing professional work. The time saving is humongous. It's odd that people still use outdated systems where you wait overnight before you can really start editing. BTW, transcoding to LT is not any faster than transcoding to basic prores.
Support issue of dealing with mpeg4? The same support as for dealing with prores, you still have to get them to install the codec and make sure they use a harddrive system that can play it back in realtime. All of our client material goes to them straight as the original files, they can do what they want with them afterwards.
harrisoncj
Member
So if you are a professional, just forget FCP and Avid and go for the more professional iMovie, vegas, or pinnacle... lmao
waiting on fcp x!
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Rick Burnett
Section Moderator
I am editing on my iPad all my movies from now on. It's so portable I can edit ANYWHERE. It's HD enough for me
Until FCP allows native MTS files, I have no choice.
cheezweezl
Veteran
ok so i tried out clipwrap (thanks rick), and it wraps my files with timecode intact. i take the avc clip into fcp and it sees the timecode. however, log and transfer does not see the timecode. every clip starts at zero. so just to make sure i'm doing this right, and correct me if i'm wrong, i insert the sd card, open up log and transfer, it sees all my clips, i select them and drag them to the bottom and they transcode. is this what everybody else is doing?
Rick Burnett
Section Moderator
I don't use L&T but I wonder if there is a flag somewhere you have to set?
cheezweezl
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i've been through every option in the l&t window. i'm at a loss. does clipwrap do transcoding as well, or just qt wrapping of avc?
Rick Burnett
Section Moderator
It does transcoding as well.
Postmaster
Dark Side of the Camera
I do. Just like with about every other file format, you throw the files at the timeline and start editing.
Though AVCHD isn´t really a editing codec and not half a smooth and snappy as uncompressed in the timeline.
That´s why I sing the gospel of uncompressed recorders.
I know the files are larger and some folks have problems with disk space and throughput when the absolutely think that a laptop is a great editing machine.
But disk space is dirt cheap and I bet, 80% of the computers owned by the DVXuser community is absolutely capable to work with uncompressed material just fine.
It´s the fastest end easiest format you can work with. It works even with a simple software raid from 2 cheap striped HDDs.
Frank
cheezweezl
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i may be adding myself to that list. i just downloaded the new fcp and i am wondering why this program even shares the same name as the old. this has no resemblance to fcp. i guess i will have to try premiere, avid, and anything else out there and decide what is best...
Postmaster
Dark Side of the Camera
Yeah, what was the "P" in FCP for? :violin:
eheath
Well-known member
You can capture everything but 1080p60 shots. 1080p60/24fps(overcrank) works though. For 1080p60 you need clip wrap, but if you're shooting 1080p24 its no big. 1080p60 is an interesting beast, sure adobe you can drop it right in but final cut you just need to encode in clip wrap and it works but you have to render it. Im sure fcp just needs a plugin for 1080p60 prores, but i doubt that'll come anytime soon seeing as apple has completely forgotten about its professional customers.
morgan_moore
Major Contributor
Postmaster
Dark Side of the Camera
Have you tried my new profiles and workflow?
http://frankglencairn.wordpress.com/2011/08/17/new-glencolor-picture-profiles-for-the-sony-fs100/
Frank
http://frankglencairn.wordpress.com/2011/08/17/new-glencolor-picture-profiles-for-the-sony-fs100/
Frank
morgan_moore
Major Contributor
frank - we are in the wrong thread - sorry to the OP!