C100: First rumor of C100 MKIII
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They're moving from the DSLR format to mirrorless. The same goes for Nikon. And, as someone said many years ago, when you're making an omelette, you have to break some eggs.
A 4K CRL is quite manageable with the CFast2.0 cards.
Of course, they should have included a 10-bit XF-XAVC with C200 but it fell victim to cartel politics. Which is not to say they shouldn't have features for quick turnaround jobs, including the "really, really low bit rate" baked-in output. FX9 seems to be leading everyone that way (by crippling its 6K output but that's a different plot).
Canon kind of, sort of announced a future 1D XIII. No exact specs were given but they promised to have 10-bit 4:2:2 C-log.
And so one has to wonder if Canon is bringing the 1D X series back to the cinema world and how it might fit with C100 MKIII in the same price range. To me, this makes C100 chances of having the RF mount a bit higher.
And so one has to wonder if Canon is bringing the 1D X series back to the cinema world and how it might fit with C100 MKIII in the same price range. To me, this makes C100 chances of having the RF mount a bit higher.
A 6K => 4K RF mount 1DX III with 10-bit 422 and CLog3 would be appealing, though as time is running out before compcams take over, they'd be better off with 10 or 12-bit RGB 444 (with H.265 bitrates are manageable).
EDIT: appears to be EF mount, still a DSLR, 10-bit 422 Clog (as DLD noted) + internal RAW. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n3vJ5LEoflw
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indiawilds
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The RF lenses that Canon is launching looks pretty lovely. RF mount in a C100 Mark III makes sense as it would be entry level camera. However no idea what Canon is thinking. When they launched the C100 (original) I was told by their VP that they are aiming the c100 for wedding guys. It was meant to be a upward transition for the DSLR shooters. However, the response to the C100 by pros surprised Canon. So even if Canon thinks that the C100 Mark III users can't afford the costlier RF lenses, just bundling the RF to EF converter for free should solve the problem.
I am surprised that the C200 didn't become as popular as it was expected to be. When I talked with rental houses they said the videoshooters feel that this camera with raw is only for serious guys. C300 Mark II didn't sell well. So Canon should have given a robust non-raw codec in C200 to take up the market from others.
I am surprised that the C200 didn't become as popular as it was expected to be. When I talked with rental houses they said the videoshooters feel that this camera with raw is only for serious guys. C300 Mark II didn't sell well. So Canon should have given a robust non-raw codec in C200 to take up the market from others.
puredrifting
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I was on a shoot yesterday with five other camera operators. At lunch we were talking and three of the five have the C500 MKII on order. First time I'd shot with any of these guys and all were hot for the C500 MKII, feeling it will be in the same territory as the lower end REDs and even as an alternative to Arri on lower budget jobs. Not saying I agree with this but that was the sentiment.
One of the guys is a total gear head and owns a LOT of gear, like two C300 MKIs, an FS7 and an FS7 MKII and he is buying the C500 MKII. We also talked about how most of our clients won't pay any higher day rate for the C500 MKII than say, an FS7 MKII or a C300 MKII. That's when I said, "This client (the one we were shooting for), they wouldn't pay a penny more for us shooting
the C500 MKII versus my C200, so why sell my C200 to spend $25k for the C500 MKII (we all figured that buying the C500 MKII with all of the goodies we would want and a big pile of CFexpress cards would be about $25k total) if I can still only get $400.00 per day day rate on the camera?
I thought it was interesting. To me, the only way a C100 MKIII makes sense would be a C200 without RAW. Now with the addition of the 1DX MKIII coming with those nice features at around $6k, why would people buy a C100 MKIII with no RAW at around the same price? It would need to be like a C200 without RAW for about $4k? RF mount? I doubt it, but who knows, Canon does some umpredictable things.
Canon's brand new RF 85mm F1.2 is priced at $2,999 (that's three grand, if you're counting at home). It seems like a reach for a higher end than a presumable $5,000-$7,000 C100 MKIII. The company is expected to launch a high megapixel full frame at some point before the Olympics to compete with A7 R IV but, while the RF-mount cameras have been priced competitively, lenses aim at a different niche.
rob norton
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How did they react?
rob norton
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Even if both go out for the same rate, the c500 ii will get specifically requested (therefore possibly making more money), the c200/c100 iii won't.